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Sly
14-06-2012, 02:53
This is probably going to be a bit of a morbid thread given its possible content.

I was talking to a friend recently and the topic eventually steered onto Fred West, of whom I remember very well seeing as he and his wife were some of the most prolific murderers the UK had ever seen and were on TV for a lot of the time. I think at the time I thought it was a scary thing but my growing mind couldn't really fathom just what atrocities were committed. Thinking about it now actually scares me a little bit, it is understandable what a storm this cause when it eventually all came out.

Ben Needham was a local boy who was snatched whilst on holiday. The weirdest thing I remember about this is my parents and family constantly checking on me when we went on holiday that year, saying they didn't want the same happening to me. The craziest thing is they never resolved the kidnapping, every big anniversary they are on the local news saying that they still looking for Ben. It's really sad.

The murder of James Bulger also alienated me as a child. I am a few months younger than Robert Thompson and Jon Venables but even knowing what they did didn't really come across as what I would want to do. I am sure all of us have struck or beat up a younger sibling or whatever during our lives, but to actually plan on killing is just something that wouldn't compute in most peoples minds. Again the media attention was really high on this one, I seemed to remember it was plastered all over everything. It is understandable really give the magnitude of these two kids actions.

Nick Leeson, although not a murderer managed to sink a whole bank single handedly through fraudulently methods. Again, I didn't really understand how much of a big deal this was, it's only looking back on the events now with an adult mind that I can unravel what the hell was going on.

When I was a mid teen the Harold Shipman case blew up. I seem to remember that it was found that he'd done away with a few people, but as they researched it the possible numbers rose to an astronomical figure. The more they dug through files the more they'd realised what damage this man had caused. Whenever they showed footage of him talking in interviews he looked like such a calm and relaxed man at ease with what he had managed to accomplish. It's absolutely crazy that he did what he did, you totally wouldn't expect it from a man like him. The scariest thing is that earlier in my life I'd actually been treated by Dr Shipman on the sidelines of a rugby match after I received a back injury whilst playing. I don't actually remember it myself but all my coaches and trainers were certain that it was he who patched me up so I could go home.

Other big crimes that managed to slip out of the jurisdictional of this forum are The Great Heck Rail Crash, The Soham Murders, the disappearance of Madeline McCann and many others. Too many to mention really.

There are plenty beforehand though, although I can't really comment on them because I wasn't either born or I was too young to remember. I expect certain specific crimes to show up though, some of them are just too big to forget.

Of course this just isn't for British crimes. Any crime is welcome to be discussed.

shilton dipper
14-06-2012, 20:28
When James Bulger was murdered my children were quite young and at the time this happened I wanted some reins for my daughter as she often tried to run off...........I went to every baby shop in the town but everyone had sold out..........I was told by an assistant in Mothercare that because of the J B murder there was a waiting list for baby reins .......it was impossible to get hold of any, anywhere in the country.

Sly
15-06-2012, 01:33
That is absolutely crazy. I remember at the time kids being on those retractable dog leads too. It never clicked at the time, but that's what it must have been.

stuckinthe80's
15-06-2012, 07:16
I think the biggest case of the 70's/80's has to be the Yorkshire Ripper. It's amazing how many times the police came so close to catching him!

Sly
15-06-2012, 08:13
I was sort of expecting the Yorkshire Ripper to be the first case mentioned. It's a little bit before my time, but it's so well documented that it's hard to avoid really whenever you start talking about wrong 'uns.

Of course, the whole Yorkshire Ripper thing brings up the whole Wearside Jack fiasco, another major crime in itself. Again, I wasn't even born when this happened, but I'm fully aware of what the situation was. It's quite scary someone would want to do something like that when you had these terrible acts trying to be closed in on by the police. The guy supposedly responsible for the hoax ended up in prison in the mid 00'd over it once they caught up with him.

victorbrunswick
15-06-2012, 13:06
Peter Sutcliffe worked as a truck driver for a trucking company and, interestingly, was pictured in one of the company's advertising brochures.

http://cdn.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00318/UK_News_2-1_jpg_318983a.jpg

Trickyvee
15-06-2012, 13:26
When I was young myself I remember that missing children always seemed to be in the news, usually with film of a bike lying on a verge somewhere. I've no doubt just as many children go missing now but not so many make the national news, apart from the big stories such as Madeline McCann. It seems strange that parents are apparently more wary now of children being taken from the streets than they were then.

shilton dipper
15-06-2012, 16:51
There was Dr John Bodkin Adams who lived in my home town who murdered several women after becoming a beneficiary on their wills
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bodkin_Adams

DavidRayner
04-07-2012, 10:28
When I was young myself I remember that missing children always seemed to be in the news, usually with film of a bike lying on a verge somewhere. I've no doubt just as many children go missing now but not so many make the national news, apart from the big stories such as Madeline McCann. It seems strange that parents are apparently more wary now of children being taken from the streets than they were then.



When it comes to pure evil and another child's bike lying on a grass verge case, you can't get worse than this from 1994. I should point out that such cases are very, very rare, although the mass media go overboard on them and make it seem like these things are happening all over the country all of the time, when they're not. In truth, your child has got more chance of winning the jackpot on the national lottery than something like this happening to them:
 

On October 7th, 1994, nine years old Daniel Handley was fixing a chain on his bicycle in Beckton, east London, when he was approached by two homosexual partners, Timothy Morss, 33 and Brett Tyler, 30, in a Peugeot 405 car. They had been cruising the area looking for a young, pre-teen, fair haired boy to make real their fantasy of abducting such a boy; sexually abusing him and then killing him. Morss, the driver of the car, claimed to be lost and asked Daniel to show them directions on a map. The map was placed across the back seat of the car and, when Daniel leaned inside to look at it, Tyler pushed him into the car and Morss drove them off. They drove Daniel to a flat, where Daniel was ordered to strip and then each man sexually abused him in turn while the other videoed the activity with a camcorder. Afterwards, they put Daniel back in the car and drove off with him. Daniel asked them if they were taking him home and he was told that they were. Daniel also asked them if they were going to kill him, but they told him they weren’t. They took Daniel to a layby near Hungerford in Berkshire, where he was again sexually abused before being strangled to death with a rope. According to Tyler, Morss told him they had to kill him, although Tyler didn’t want to. "We’ve got to!", Morss told him and then each pulled on one end of the rope that was wrapped around Daniel’s neck. "I kept telling Daniel I was sorry until he was dead", said Tyler. "But he didn’t look as though he was dead…just asleep."

His killers dumped his body in a shallow grave near Bristol. Morss told Tyler that he felt dissatisfied with the short time he had spent having sex with Daniel, that he felt it was a waste and that he wanted another boy. In March, 1995 - five months after he was last seen alive, Daniels remains were discovered.

On May 17, 1996, Timothy Morss and Brett Tyler were convicted of murdering Daniel Handley. The trial judge at the Old Bailey branded them as "vultures" and sentenced them to life imprisonment with a recommendation that they should never be released. Six years later, the pair were given a 50-year minimum term by the Home Secretary David Blunkett.

After the trial, it was revealed that Daniel's killers had met in Wormwood Scrubs Prison during the early 1990’s, while they were serving prison sentences for child sex offences. Morss already owned a house near Bristol, a minicab firm and a florist’s shop, assets which had been obtained with his former homosexual partner.

They fled to the Philippines after Daniel's death, but by the time they returned to Britain, Daniel's body had been found, and they were quickly arrested on suspicion of murder.

Tyler later recalled "the feeling of sexual excitement when I grabbed his body and pushed him into the car, the fear of being caught and the excitement that we might get away with it. It was like a fantasy."

culnara
04-07-2012, 10:55
Although Dennis Nelson was brought up in our neck of the woods He committed his crimes down in London
and only got caught when complaint's were put forward about the stench coming from his drain..... body parts were found to be blocking it :eek:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Nilsen

Sicko

escorteclipse1990
13-08-2013, 01:03
Although Dennis Nelson was brought up in our neck of the woods He committed his crimes down in London
and only got caught when complaint's were put forward about the stench coming from his drain..... body parts were found to be blocking it :eek:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Nilsen

Sicko

Its 30 years since he was arrested, Killing for company by Brain Masters about Nilsen is a good read. Nilsen was evil. Killing For Company would make a good film about Nilsens life

Romany Jones.
13-08-2013, 02:22
I remember this being on the news everywhere.....at one point I actually thought they were looking for a man that turned into a black panther....really scared me......adults use to whisper a name in hushed tones.....
The name...
Lesley Whittle.

DONALD NEILSON: THE BLACK PANTHER


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Neilson’s hardened criminal behaviour became more entrenched with each robbery and, on 15 February 1974, during a raid on a Harrogate sub-post office, he shot dead the postmaster, Donald Skepper. Having kept a low profile following the first murder, and the ensuing police hunt, he took another life seven months later, when postmaster Derek Astin was shot dead in Lancashire during the course of another raid. The police quickly came to the conclusion that they were looking for the same killer in both cases.


Just 9 weeks later, a third postmaster, Sidney Grayland, was shot dead during the commission of a robbery in the West Midlands. Forensic evidence at the scene linked this death to the first two. Despite the three deaths the media showed little interest in the attacks, and Neilson was dissatisfied with the lack of attention, as well as the relatively slim pickings to be had from the post office raids.


Still searching for that elusive big payout, Neilson settled on kidnapping as his best route to success, choosing Lesley Whittle, a 17-year-old heiress to a transport fortune. He gathered as much information about her as he could, and made comprehensive plans for her incarceration, as well as the delivery of the ransom that he planned to demand for her return.


On 14 January 1975, Neilson broke into the Whittle family’s Shropshire estate, and abducted Lesley from her bedroom without incident, leaving a ransom note that demanded £50,000. In it, he gave detailed instructions for its delivery by Lesley’s brother, Ronald, and included a warning not to involve the police. Lesley Whittle was held in a drainage shaft beneath Bathpool Park, in Staffordshire.


The Whittle family chose not to heed the ransom warning, and informed both the local police and Scotland Yard of the abduction. Poor communication between the different police factions led to a media leak, which convinced police that the kidnapper had been scared off by the media attention. This wasn’t the case, however, and when Neilson called the designated phone box in accordance with his ransom instructions, Ronald Whittle was not there to take his call.


Two further ransom delivery attempts were bungled over the next 72 hours, as a result of both poor police coordination and bad luck, but at least police were sure that Lesley was still alive at this time, as it was her voice that recorded the details for the second failed ransom drop, in Bathpool Park itself. On the tape she seemed calm and collected, given the circumstances. It is claimed that Neilson spotted a police vehicle in the area at the time of the second drop, and decided not to risk a police trap, aborting the ransom drop. Unbeknownst to the police, the second failed attempt ended just yards from the drainage shaft where Lesley was imprisoned, but no search of the immediate area was carried out at the time. Furious that his instructions had not been followed, Neilson waited nearby for Ronald Whittle and the police to leave, before entering the drainage shaft and killing Lesley Whittle in a rage. Had police conducted a thorough search before leaving, there was every chance they might have discovered Lesley alive.


On the same night as the last aborted drop, Neilson was also involved in a freight train terminal robbery, in which a security guard, Gerald Smith, was fatally injured. Forensic evidence again linked the crime to the “Black Panther” post-office heists, but no connection was made to the Whittle kidnap at that time. It took police more than a week to discover Neilson’s stolen getaway vehicle, which he had abandoned close to the terminal, in which tapes of Lesley Whittle’s voice, and ransom drop instructions, were found.


Finally making the connection between the “Black Panther” and Lesley Whittle, and given that 10 days had passed without word from her kidnapper, a proper search of Bathpool Park was instigated, and the news blackout, that had proved so ineffective, was lifted. A televised interview with Ronald Whittle, and public assistance, led to the discovery of Lesley Whittle’s body nearly two months later, on 7 March 1975. She was discovered hanging naked from a rope tied to the end of a metal hawser in the drainage shaft, and post mortem evidence revealed that she had been killed within days of her kidnapping.
http://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/crime-files/donald-neilson-the-black-panther/crime.html

Romany Jones.
13-08-2013, 02:39
Continued....

THE BLACK PANTHER.



The murder of Lesley Whittle occurred in January 1975 and dominated national headlines for 11 months. The investigation of her kidnap and murder involved over 400 officers from Shropshire, Staffordshire and West Midlands police force and the Metropolitan Police.
Whittle, aged 17, was kidnapped from her home in Highley, Shropshire, by Donald Neilson, who by that time had committed over 400 burglaries and three fatal shootings. He was known to the British press as the Black Panther, due to his wearing a black balaclava during his Post Office raids.
Neilson held Lesley Whittle in a drainage shaft of a reservoir at Bathpool Park in Kidsgrove, Staffordshire. He had placed a hood over her head, left her naked, and tethered her to the side of the shaft by a wire noose. After what was later seen as a bungled police operation, including two failed attempts to engage with Neilson's demand for a ransom of £50,000, her body was found hanging in the shaft on 7 March 1975.
After arrest 11 months later in Mansfield, in July 1976 at Oxford Crown Court, Neilson was convicted of the kidnapping and murder of Lesley Whittle, for which he was sentenced to life imprisonment. Three weeks later he was convicted of the murder of three post office workers, and given three further life sentences.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lesley_Whittle




http://youtu.be/mEjWiNMFg1I

amethyst
14-08-2013, 07:42
The Moores murderers

victorbrunswick
15-08-2013, 07:42
I'm not sure if this would count as the details have only come out recently. I'm referring to the late Jimmy Savile's long history of sexual abuse going back several decades. I saw a documentary about the once beloved television personality and it amazed me that there were actually several missed opportunities to bring Savile to justice when he was still alive.

amethyst
16-08-2013, 07:10
I'm not sure if this would count as the details have only come out recently. I'm referring to the late Jimmy Savile's long history of sexual abuse going back several decades. I saw a documentary about the once beloved television personality and it amazed me that there were actually several missed opportunities to bring Savile to justice when he was still alive.

He got away with so much to think I used to watch Jim fix it who else has skeletons in their cupboard we dont know about

the fox
16-08-2013, 11:00
who else has skeletons in their cupboard we dont know about

Well, as it turns out, allegedly, quite a few people it seems. Many of them seem to have worked as respected radio/television personalities. I am starting to wonder just how many 1970's adult celebrities may turn out to be sexual criminals. It is starting to feel like a blight on the whole era. Mind you, i doubt any of them can match the sheer monstrosity of saville.

victorbrunswick
16-08-2013, 16:42
In the case of Saville it seems that everyone from the BBC to the NHS knew what he was playing at but turned a blind eye. He had friends in very high places, including the Royal Family. One of the documentaries showed a pic of Saville dressed in the uniform of a Royal Navy admiral posing with high-ranking naval officers!

Sly
17-08-2013, 02:33
The Saville stuff is absolutely mental isn't it? I'm still surprised certain people have not been pulled in over the whole yew tree investigation. It's all sorts of crazy when you've got people you admired as a kid get dragged through that. Especially some of the folks they've pulled in. It sort of feels like having the rug pulled from under your childhoods feet.

amethyst
17-08-2013, 07:06
He was a good actor playing Mr nice guy with charity events Jim fix it etc little did we know of his evil dark side

the fox
18-08-2013, 07:42
It's almost as if paedophillia was deemed nothing more than a "bad habit" within certain circles in the 70's. That's why so many people stayed quiet and so many kids were abused. Truly awful.

ann22
18-08-2013, 23:34
I remember headlines in the Daily Mirror about more Yorkshire Ripper victimes. The next major crime I remember was the hunt for Robert Black, who murdered Susan Maxwell, Caroline Hogg and Sarah Harper. I remember a drawing in the Mirror paper of a reconstruction of Susan Maxwell's disappearance. It was the little girl wearing a tennis outfit hitting an abductor with her racket. I remember reading that on the day of her funeral, her mother spotted a yellow rose had bloomed in their garden, think Susan had planted it or something, heartbreaking!

Many other crimes stand out for me, James Bulger's murder I will never forget, I cried for weeks.

I remember Jeffrey Dahmer being captured, also Denis Nilsen and his drains.

victorbrunswick
19-08-2013, 06:03
Jeffrey Dahmer is also believed to have committed murders in Germany when he was stationed there while serving in the US Army.

amethyst
19-08-2013, 07:02
Jill Dando murdered on her London doorstep

escorteclipse1990
19-08-2013, 15:29
Fred and Rose West i remember back in 1994. I remember at the same time Brookside was doing a storyline with the body under the patio.

PC66
26-08-2013, 14:54
Plenty of older cases which have became famous such as Mary Bell and John Christie, but as far as the 1970's onward goes, there was the 1976 school bus kidnapping in California:

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/gangsters_outlaws/outlaws/chowchilla_kidnap/index.html

victorbrunswick
26-08-2013, 15:46
Plenty of older cases which have became famous such as Mary Bell and John Christie, but as far as the 1970's onward goes, there was the 1976 school bus kidnapping in California:

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/gangsters_outlaws/outlaws/chowchilla_kidnap/index.html

I remember that one very well. The bus driver passed away just last year at age 91.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/19/us/ed-ray-bus-driver-who-helped-save-kidnapped-children-dies-at-91.html?_r=0

amethyst
27-08-2013, 07:13
How about that evil Austrian man who kept his daughter hidden in the house for 20 years I believe, abused her etc

screamqueen
04-03-2014, 22:11
I remember the Fred West case breaking in the news when I was a schoolkid, also vaguely remember a news story about someone breaking into a girls' school, holding several pupils hostage and killing them with a knife. I can't remember when or where that happened though.

I had a friend whose mother had been attacked by a man late at night and was convinced he'd been Peter Sutcliffe although I guess that anyone who had a similar encounter around that time and place might jump to the same conclusion ...

darren
05-03-2014, 19:01
wow yes indeed.

and of course the james bulger abduction i remember people saying it was the fault of the childs play film.



How about that evil Austrian man who kept his daughter hidden in the house for 20 years I believe, abused her etc

screamqueen
05-03-2014, 21:03
wow yes indeed.

and of course the james bulger abduction i remember people saying it was the fault of the childs play film.

It was Child's Play 3 which one of the killers had supposedly watched shortly before the murder. The police found no evidence he'd ever seen it (just that his father, with whom the killer didn't live, had rented it), but it still led to the BURN THIS EVIL FILM NOW! campaign from the Sun.. I remember it was also blamed for another murder where the victim was forced to listen to a techno song on repeat that sampled some lines from the movie ...

staffslad
04-05-2016, 18:01
The first crime that I became aware of was the abduction and murder of Christine Darby in 1967. She was one of three very young girls murdered and their bodies left on Cannock Chase. I can remember at age 5 staring up at a poster of Christine Darby asking people to come forward with information. The Chase is less than a minute's walk from our house and it struck the area very hard. I wasn't allowed to play out on my own, not even in the garden. Raymond Morris was arrested and convicted of Christine's murder. He died in prison a couple of years ago. He lived in a flat in Walsall, opposite a police station. We used to pass it in our car when visiting some relatives and every time my dad would point it out to us.

amethyst
04-05-2016, 22:05
The Yorkshire Ripper
Fred West

Great train robbery of 1963

staffslad
05-05-2016, 08:46
The unsolved murder of 13-year old newspaper delivery boy Carl Bridgewater in 1978. Four men were convicted of his murder but several decades later the convictions were quashed, and his killer or killers remain at large.

staffslad
05-05-2016, 11:51
Moors murderers Brady and Hindley recorded themselves abusing and torturing one of their victims, Lesley Ann Downey. I have never heard that recording, nor would I ever want to do so, but I have read that those that had to as part of the investigation were deeply traumatised by it. Also, I read that the mother of Lesley Ann had to listen to part of the recording so she could identify the voice as her daughter's. I cannot even begin to imagine what hearing that tape did to that poor woman.

zabadak
05-05-2016, 13:31
The abduction (and total disappearance) of schoolgirl Genette Tait happened near where we lived - I went to her school the year after... :eek:

staffslad
05-05-2016, 19:05
According to the BBC, convicted child killer Robert Black was due to be charged with Genette's disappearance but died before charges could be laid against him.

zabadak
06-05-2016, 13:22
Yes, I recall seeing that... :mad:

staffslad
06-05-2016, 19:26
Additionally, according to Wikipedia, Black is suspected of many other child murders, not only in the UK, but also in continental Europe. Some of whose remains have not yet been found.

onthebusesfan
08-04-2019, 21:06
Madeline Mccann's disappearance which is shocking and i still think the mum and dad did it . i could be wrong but i do see them very strange humans.

George 1978
08-04-2019, 23:44
The abduction (and total disappearance) of schoolgirl Genette Tait happened near where we lived - I went to her school the year after... :eek:

I have a copy of the newspaper published on the day I was born which mentions the incident.

George 1978
08-04-2019, 23:50
According to the BBC, convicted child killer Robert Black was due to be charged with Genette's disappearance but died before charges could be laid against him.

It's hard to believe that my home city of Nottingham had been implicated more than once with regards to his crimes - Sarah Harper's body was found in the River Trent near Wilford in 1986, and two years later Teresa Thornhill was grabbed by Robert Black and he tried to get her into his van in the Radford area, although her friend was nearby who helped her escape from him.

Despite both of these incidents, Nottingham has never really been associated as being a place connected to the crimes - a bit like how Liverpool is always the sharp focus of the Hillsborough disaster and that Nottingham hardly ever gets mentioned. When Robert Black died, looking at the BBC regional news pages, the counties where his victims went missing, the news of his death was mentioned, but it was not mentioned in the counties where their bodies were found, including Nottinghamshire.

Zincubus
09-04-2019, 08:06
Madeline Mccann's disappearance which is shocking and i still think the mum and dad did it . i could be wrong but i do see them very strange humans.

Really ?!?

I’ve always presumed she was taken by some child trafficker/ gang ... they are always on the lookout for pretty young children apparently..

I find it difficult to believe that any right minded parents would harm their baby girl .. just makes no kind of sense to me ..

If the parents were both low life heroin addicts or something ... but they were intelligent , law abiding people..


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Zincubus
09-04-2019, 08:13
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190409/ea6cc9813e6e80fe06bd597821094f6b.jpg
Not a great example but it gives the general idea

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Richard1978
09-04-2019, 13:32
Really ?!?

I’ve always presumed she was taken by some child trafficker/ gang ... they are always on the lookout for pretty young children apparently..

I find it difficult to believe that any right minded parents would harm their baby girl .. just makes no kind of sense to me ..

If the parents were both low life heroin addicts or something ... but they were intelligent , law abiding people..


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I remember the Portuguese police had them listed as suspects for a long time after but seemingly didn't have any evidence against them.

Also if that had got away with it would they have kept such a high profile in the years since?

darren
09-04-2019, 14:59
Robert BlackRobert Black is a Scottish serial killer convicted of the kidnapping and murder of four girls between the ages of 5 and 11 between 1981 and 1986 in the United Kingdom. He was convicted of ******** assaulting one of the girls and of ******t he other three. Black was also convicted of the kidnapping of a fifth girl and the attempted kidnapping of a sixth. Black is also suspected of unsolved child murders in the UK dating back to 1969 and others in the 1970s throughout Europe. .. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Black_(serial_killer))

Zincubus
10-04-2019, 04:16
Our little town had that unsolved murder in a bus interchange toilets !!
Where the female victim was supposedly slit from throat to errr nether regions and had her skin peeled back !!


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George 1978
10-04-2019, 16:08
I have been watching old editions of Crimewatch UK, and funnily enough, there was a reconstruction from an early 1990s edition (probably 1991) that resembled that bus station toilet murder - the victim was visiting someone in hospital, and paid the price as a result of missing the bus home and having to wait half an hour for the next one, only she didn't get the next one. She went in the ladies' and she didn't come out alive.

Another Crimewatch reconstruction was the murder of Sheila Egner who was an assistant at a Yeomans army surplus store on Mansfield Road in Nottingham on Friday 26th July 1991 - it was a robbery where she was killed. The man escaped with the takings in a box and was never seen again. The Murder posters were placed on the windows of local buses, community centre noticeboards, and other places as well for the remainder of the year at least. Cue the reconstruction showing a very nostalgic early 1990s view of Mansfield Road north of the City Centre.

Oh, and on a Saturday around the same time, (must have been Saturday 10th August 1991 as we had Day Rider passes on that day), we witnessed a robbery in a local jewellery shop in Nottingham City Centre, and I can even remember the model and registration number of the getaway car to this very day. Don't worry - we weren't hurt or anything - we just happened to be there. Central News covered it, and even Police 5 did - I wanted to record it, but my sister wanted to watch Top of the Pops instead, so I missed it.

Danniella
12-10-2019, 08:36
Coming from Liverpool i have to say the James Bulger case. It's still on peoples minds here and in the local press. I've seen his mum around town. Poor woman and her family have been through a lot.

tex
12-10-2019, 10:55
Always been fascinated by the John christie murders since watching 10 Rillington place, Richard attenboroughs portrayal of Christie was chilling

Zincubus
12-10-2019, 14:00
Coming from Liverpool i have to say the James Bulger case. It's still on peoples minds here and in the local press. I've seen his mum around town. Poor woman and her family have been through a lot.

One of THOSE two are supposedly ‘housed-contained’ in our little town !


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Zincubus
12-10-2019, 14:02
Our little town had that unsolved murder in a bus interchange toilets !!
Where the female victim was supposedly slit from throat to errr nether regions and had her skin peeled back !!


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Soooo they solved this long standing murder case fairly recently by way of a DNA sample taken after a traffic offence ..


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George 1978
12-10-2019, 21:41
I have mentioned it before in that other thread, but James Bulger would be around 30 years of age now if he had lived - he could have been married by now with a family of his own, and obviously that will never happen. The same with other child murder victims - the death of a person so young means no future family can exist.

darren
14-10-2019, 21:37
A very famous one is the crimes of the golden state killer from 1976 to 86 in california.

He was only caught last year.