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  • Richard1978
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    Originally posted by Zincubus View Post
    Na .... he surrounds himself with brilliant people .. who are better at the jobs he delegates - its the same ploy/ principle Donald Trump follows .. Both great leaders for all their obvious failings .. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
    In Trump's case they are people he thinks are brilliant but reality end up having to leave with their tails between their legs.

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  • zabadak
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    Sadly, we will now be leaving the EU at the end of January. Done. However, I don't think we'll notice much difference until the trade deal, if we get one, is signed off. We are in a kind of phony war situation right now.

    I think the scale of Boris' victory took everyone, including the man himself, by surprise.

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  • George 1978
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    Originally posted by Richard1978 View Post
    Supposedly when he was mayor of London the civil servants had to do all the serious stuff while he was either making personal appearances or coming up with daft vanity projects.
    The irony was that if I had lived in London, I probably would have automatically voted for Johnson as Mayor.

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  • Zincubus
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    Originally posted by Richard1978 View Post
    It's a shame because he's the sort of person who likes the title of office but hates doing the day to day work.

    Supposedly when he was mayor of London the civil servants had to do all the serious stuff while he was either making personal appearances or coming up with daft vanity projects.
    Na .... he surrounds himself with brilliant people .. who are better at the jobs he delegates - its the same ploy/ principle Donald Trump follows ..

    Both great leaders for all their obvious failings ..


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  • Richard1978
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    Originally posted by Zincubus View Post
    Crazy thing is the silly buffoon is just an act as he’s an extraordinary intelligent guy ... check out his time at university.. very impressive


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    It's a shame because he's the sort of person who likes the title of office but hates doing the day to day work.

    Supposedly when he was mayor of London the civil servants had to do all the serious stuff while he was either making personal appearances or coming up with daft vanity projects.

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  • Zincubus
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    Crazy thing is the silly buffoon is just an act as he’s an extraordinary intelligent guy ... check out his time at university.. very impressive


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  • Zincubus
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    Originally posted by amethyst View Post
    I like Boris even more now he will make a great prime minister.The speech he made on Friday was phenomenal.I voted conservative like all those people in labour heartlands.We want change to get Brexit done and move on
    I don’t have a dog in this fight but it was telling how Boris was even more enthusiastic regarding improving the NHS and other services AFTER he’d won ... any other PM may have discarded anything like that or at least not mentioned it as soon as they’d won ..


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  • George 1978
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    Originally posted by amethyst View Post
    I like Boris even more now he will make a great prime minister.The speech he made on Friday was phenomenal.I voted conservative like all those people in labour heartlands.We want change to get Brexit done and move on
    Getting used to a new Prime Minister is like getting used to wearing a new pair of shoes - one gets blisters and teething problems, although as time goes by, one gets used to wearing them.

    I would have voted Conservative as well, but as I voted Remain in 2016, I actually thought whether that actually tallied with what the Brexit situation is now.

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  • Richard1978
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    Originally posted by amethyst View Post
    I like Boris even more now he will make a great prime minister.The speech he made on Friday was phenomenal.I voted conservative like all those people in labour heartlands.We want change to get Brexit done and move on
    Did the Kool-aid taste nice?

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  • amethyst
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    I like Boris even more now he will make a great prime minister.The speech he made on Friday was phenomenal.I voted conservative like all those people in labour heartlands.We want change to get Brexit done and move on

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  • George 1978
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    Originally posted by Zincubus View Post
    I just never trusted nor liked Corbyn or his vacuous ex lover Diane Abbott

    Hopefully we will soon be rid of them both .
    Something I didn't know about there.

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  • Zincubus
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    Originally posted by beccabear67 View Post
    I didn't have a horse in this race, but as someone who has watched a deterioration in the U.S. I want to say that civility is the foundation of civilization. One of my personal heroes is Prime Minister Stanley Baldwin, Conservative. I think he lived and worked by this principle. Were this a U.S. person posting it could be meant quite literally, and also as they only have two major parties would in effect mean they would no longer be a democracy if they carried such a thing out. Also there was that shooting just before another recent election which was horrifying. I am no fan of Boris of Eton (which isn't to say I am a fan of anybody else) but his post-election speech was well said and I hope he genuinely will try to live up to it.

    I can certainly imagine people living through the '70s having a very large chip about labour, and also those who saw the WMD lie that led Brits into that Iraq fight and occupation. A real victory does not come through name-calling, intimidation or bullying any more than a war started on a lie can be said to be won. I hope this post from an outsider is acceptable. It is not meant to aggravate.
    Nice post ..


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  • beccabear67
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    Originally posted by Zincubus View Post
    Line ‘em all up whilst I get me gun ...
    I didn't have a horse in this race, but as someone who has watched a deterioration in the U.S. I want to say that civility is the foundation of civilization. One of my personal heroes is Prime Minister Stanley Baldwin, Conservative. I think he lived and worked by this principle. Were this a U.S. person posting it could be meant quite literally, and also as they only have two major parties would in effect mean they would no longer be a democracy if they carried such a thing out. Also there was that shooting just before another recent election which was horrifying. I am no fan of Boris of Eton (which isn't to say I am a fan of anybody else) but his post-election speech was well said and I hope he genuinely will try to live up to it.

    I can certainly imagine people living through the '70s having a very large chip about labour, and also those who saw the WMD lie that led Brits into that Iraq fight and occupation. A real victory does not come through name-calling, intimidation or bullying any more than a war started on a lie can be said to be won. I hope this post from an outsider is acceptable. It is not meant to aggravate.

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  • Richard1978
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    Originally posted by Zincubus View Post
    I actually think Boris will make a good Prime Minister as he will want to leave a great legacy ..

    Same applies to Trump bizarrely .

    Despite all their failings they are both proud even egotistical and won’t want to be remembered as abject failures

    I hope Boris revitalises the NHS and makes it better than ever . Same for all the services - he’ll do it just to prove everyone wrong


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    I think you might be somewhat disappointed.

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  • George 1978
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    At first I just shuddered when I thought of Johnson becoming Prime Minister, and I just couldn't believe that over two thirds of Conservative Party members voted for him against Jeremy Hunt in the July leadership election - at a distance it did look as if had a left-wing leader versus a right-wing leader, and anyone traditionally in the centre would either go for the Liberal Democrats or Change UK. I thought that a London Mayor does not a Prime Minister make.

    Watching Johnson's speech outside No 10 on Friday afternoon made me think a bit differently, and the "Merry Christmas" reference at the end was touching - after all, a General Election has never been close to Christmas in nearly 100 years. I think that most of us will warm to him as time goes on, and Brexit is just like a huge amount of water which needs to be passed under the bridge in less than seven weeks' time anyway. As I have a Conservative MP now representing me, I am considering going back to them.

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