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  • We used to get the Grange Hill kids (Zammo and a couple of girls I can't remember) to open our school fetes. Think it was the church pulilng strings. Lol

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    • Originally posted by George 1978 View Post
      I was thinking about one character who seemed to have stayed in the series longer than anyone else in the first decade: the school secretary Janet.

      She seemed to be an official character, being credited at the end of the appropriate episodes that she appeared in, possibly credited as "Janet" or "(school) secretary", and was credited as "Stella Haime" in series 1 and 2, and "Stella Monsell" in series 3 and 4, who I believe was the same person although the IMDB lists them separately - I believe that as they both shared the same name, they were the same person, and then she stops being credited after that. Even at this point by 1981 she is the only adult staff member to still appear in GH who was first seen in series 1 - a runner-up would have been Graham Ashley, although his sad death in November 1979 meant that he was no longer alive to appear as Garfield the Caretaker and was replaced by Timothy Bateson's Thomson (both named after Cartoon cats, methinks - think of the 1980s Thomson Local Directory adverts!) Ashley didn't even live long enough to see his final GH appearances.

      However, after series 4, someone called "Janet" is still McClusky's secretary, speaking to her on the telephone from her office in series 5 (the Roland Browning storyline in the first two episodes), and a woman who depicts her is sometimes seen, although no longer speaks, so therefore she is not credited, and is probably a bit like Llewellyn the Headmaster in series 3 - still there when he isn't, if you know what I mean. I suppose that she looked almost like the Madge Allsopp to McClusky's Dame Edna Everage!

      Janet remains McClusky's secretary into the early Zammo Maguire era, and is still referred to when the Headmistress is close to her or the secretary's office although is no longer credited, such as Gripper's suspension in series 6, Suzanne Ross having enough and doing a bunk in series 7, etc. She even makes it past the merger and is still mentioned in the episode of series 9 where Imelda is suspended for cutting up the corners of the timetables to extort money from the first year girls, and also Ant Jones kissing in the school playground, being caught by Bronson. Bridget still refers to Janet in that episode. It's worth noting that in five of those nine episodes - (more than half), there was another Janet in the cast - Janet St Clair, although she was after the other Janet was credited - perhaps that was why the secretary was no longer credited, so as to avoid confusion with Roland's busybody?

      Janet seems to be finally mentioned in series 9, and in series 10 a new secretary called Jenny is now working for McClusky - she is credited when she had lines in Imelda's expulsion episode "I can bug her if you like", she says to Kennedy about McClusky being undisturbed while having a meeting with Chairman Governor Glover. In her uncredited series, the silent actress does look like the same one who appeared during the Tucker era, and I would give the benefit of the doubt that it is the same person as well as the same character all those years.

      I have come to the conclusion that if Janet the school secretary has been implicated in ever series from 1978 to 1986, then that would have made her become the last surviving character who had previously and possibly continuously appeared in every series since the first series, even if several actresses had played her over the years. Even Baxter was the closest to equalling that but had only joined in series 2. I wonder what other people think about this? Does the school secretary have the accolade for being the last surviving character, staff or pupil from back in 1978?

      To be honest George, i thought i recalled a Janet or Jenny in Series 13 too (though i may be mixing her up with Janet), but as you say if Janet was there from Day 1 that makes her one of the longest serving characters from the start - in a way like Tracey "the Barmaid" in the Queen Vic on EastEnders who is known for being there from Day 1 as an extra as was Big Ron 9a Market Trader), not the Ex-aston Villa and Forest Gaffer amongst many others!

      Though if she did survive all those years and even became Jenny - hmm yep she is the longest serving character from Day 1 of course, but not the Lonest Serving Teacher or Pupil (though of course a Pupil would not attain such a length of spell given the years to stay in School are not possible), but Kathy McCllroy and James "Arnie" Arnold, and Colin Brown all did 7 years :, in Kathy's case returning as a a "sort of Trainee/HHelping Hand" in the CIC) which many considered dubious as to she could just attain such a job, even if with the greatest respect it was a Low Key Job and Arnie had to take a year out due to his Epilespy as too Colin was also allowed back djue to his terrible spell as a TV Presenter that did'nt work out;, but to my knowledge the full list of longest serving characters (not including Janet/Jenny Bates) as I am unsure when she left etc (as that would be at least 9 years from 1978 to 1987) otherwise is

      1. Mr Robson (15 and a half years - 1988 to 2004) as he was'nt seen in Series 27 but still was "about"
      2. Un-brelievably Mr Hankin pipped Mrs McCklusky by one year to a grand total of 12 years - 1990 to 2002
      3 Mr Mackenzie 1985 to 1993
      4 Mrs Carver-Robson 1995 to 2002
      5 Mr Brislety 1992 to 1999 - 7 years but as he left in early series 22 and arived very late in Series 15, i'd put him more on an equal footing with Mrs Booth in doing 6 years or just over

      Then there is the Students

      James "Arnie" Arnold, Colin Brown, and Kathy McCllroy - 7 years each and then Justine Dean, and Callie Donnington and Trevor doing 7 full years including a Lower and Upper 6th each - which even Georgina did not complete as she began in the 2nd Year/Year 8 .... nor did Ronnie (though she gave a good go of it - as she did a 7th series) abliet one Episode to wrap up the Monkey/aids Storyline of Callie's

      On a final sub-note I read Robbie was due to do a th but John Alford changed his mind due to so many of that era having left!!

      80sChav

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      • I was on the Kaleidoscope website and saw an LWT ad break from 1980 - I saw an old beer ad with Michael Percival on there, acting very differently to his Mitchell character. I have always wondered what Percival did acting-wise between 1980 and 1982 after he left GH and got a cameo in the BBC snooker comedy-drama Give us a Break in 1983 as the IMDB shows nothing from 1979 to 1983. I assumed that he was in the theatre most of that time or did uncredited work like adverts. If he had stayed with GH in 1980, I bet that he wouldn't have been able to do that advert. I know that he made a cameo in a Kenco advert in around 1982.

        Ever since I saw the Sunday morning GH repeats in 1993 I took to the Mr Mitchell character and wondered what other acting work he had one.
        I've everything I need to keep me satisfied
        There's nothing you can do to make me change my mind
        I'm having so much fun
        My lucky number's one
        Ah! Oh! Ah! Oh!

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        • Originally posted by George 1978 View Post
          I was on the Kaleidoscope website and saw an LWT ad break from 1980 - I saw an old beer ad with Michael Percival on there, acting very differently to his Mitchell character. I have always wondered what Percival did acting-wise between 1980 and 1982 after he left GH and got a cameo in the BBC snooker comedy-drama Give us a Break in 1983 as the IMDB shows nothing from 1979 to 1983. I assumed that he was in the theatre most of that time or did uncredited work like adverts. If he had stayed with GH in 1980, I bet that he wouldn't have been able to do that advert. I know that he made a cameo in a Kenco advert in around 1982.

          Ever since I saw the Sunday morning GH repeats in 1993 I took to the Mr Mitchell character and wondered what other acting work he had one.
          He also had a fleeting role in Clockwise alongside John Cleese ... but blink and you'll miss it though George mate!!

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          • I think from the turn of the year 9give or take since I began) I have watched every Series so far fully (not missing many) par the 2 Xmas ones and the odd other one all the way through from 1978 to so far Judi Jefferies Tragic death that was the opposite of "life imitating Art" where it was opposite four years later in 2003 that poor Laura Sadler RIP suffered a very similar fate as the character Judi befell

            To me the hearing of Laura's sad sad death in 2003 feels like yesteday - not nearly 20 years since and that laura would be a very similar age to me now (give or take a few years) ... it just seems like no-time at all and I can recall the exact place and what I was doing that day(more so as Laura was a rising star in Hoilby a year or 2 after leaving GH)

            Anyway I itend to carry on right up to the last 9 years in 2008 after this - even if some of the "Liverpool years" are sketchy, but all was generaly good (even 2003 AND S26 - the first "Liverpool Series" was better than some of the later Elstree years I thought in-particular 1993 10 years prior and S16 - with S26 and the final 31st (as at one stage we had 2 Series in one Calendar year) to take it past the 30th Series to hit the ill-fated 31st

            Though in the main most was consistantly good with very very hard hitting storylines - like Kevin taking the Drug Sticker in 1995 and having an illussion and all his other antics (though he still was very very under-rated as a character) and then the Wayne/Sean/Judi storyline - that began with Sean knifing Judi in mistake of his taget Wayne that carried on minus Judi past Series 22 in '99, then the rascist storylines that involved at least 3 different races and then culminated in Ray's beating and his Cafe being trashed in Series 24 After that I thought the storylines could not get any better and any more elberate but still not o.t.t and "jumping the shark" - but it did with Deverill and his censorship issues and his own brand of coperal punishment and making all the staff think all Kids was evil and twisted - when in-fact it was him .... which culminated in him burning the place to a Cinder (intended or not we'll never know), but in a way that was the end of GH for me - though yeah as I say we had a few decent Series and Storylines after in Liverpool - like Mr Green hitting Taylor after Taylor had tormented him all series and made his life un-bearable and after Taylor tried to expose nick stealing the Exam Papers), but abliet it was only 2 years after Deverill swiping Hudson - it was still a very very good "Repeat" of it!!

            If though the BBC can not see why we need Grange Hill (ok that is fair) but at least give us Waterloo Rd a chance to return, as we have Police and Hospital Drama's, so why not school ones, as they taught the 80s, 90s and even early 00'[s Kids so much about life and are invaluable I think to kids even know (who just live on the 'net and know nothing about real-life) , more so with all the Hate and bullying crime kids suffer today and knifings in London (like it is normal every day) and to a fair degree as bad in other Big City's) , though it is never hardly put in the National Press

            So please someone in TV Authority, let GH return or at least a combi ocalled grange Hill rd or Waterloo Hill or Grange Rd etc!!

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            • I always liked Gonch, he was a good actor at the time but apparently gave it up to run a casino

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              • Cathy Hargreaves and Penny Cartwright

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                • Originally posted by CharlieBrown View Post
                  We used to get the Grange Hill kids (Zammo and a couple of girls I can't remember) to open our school fetes. Think it was the church pulilng strings. Lol
                  Oh wow Charlie I'd be in awe here mate .... talk about making me jelly .... meeting my heros!

                  80sChav

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                  • Gripper Stebson lol

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                    • According to various reports Phil has now re-decided to make Grange Hill: The Movie by doing things like Waterloo Rd with how kids cope with Covid in School and Social Media issues too with a Headmaster struggling to cope with modern life. It is due out later this year I have read - though this "movie route" happened before. In a way I think it is clutching at straws somehow sadly!, but i hope it's true and leads to a full scale-comeback,. The only writer capable of writing with Phil imho is Sarah Daniels - it has to be Sarah ..... GH's best writer ever

                      80sChav

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                      • I read that Patsy Palmer spent two years on Grange Hill..... you would nt know it , she must have just
                        been there to make up the numbers !

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                        • Originally posted by silverbirch View Post
                          I read that Patsy Palmer spent two years on Grange Hill..... you would nt know it , she must have just
                          been there to make up the numbers !
                          Yes she was just an extra, though like a few GH regulars she managed to get a part in Eastenders.
                          The Trickster On The Roof

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                          • Originally posted by Richard1978 View Post

                            Yes she was just an extra, though like a few GH regulars she managed to get a part in Eastenders.
                            I think her EastEnders Sister -in-law Diane Butcher also had a non-speaking role too Richard

                            80sChav

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