FA Cup Finals

[Zincubus]

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..... long time ago we are garbage now

Why on earth are they not playing Jack Grealish ?!?

I see him as a special talent , he's got something you rarely see .

I'd love to see him picked up by Arsenal - one of the best young players I've EVER seen ..

[Zincubus]

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We won the old 1st division in 1980/81 using just 14 players all season

went on to win the european cup the following season

That's the season I'm thinking about .. I have a shocking memory and they all basically morph into one mess of a memory .

[Jay Mc]

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We won the old 1st division in 1980/81 using just 14 players all season

went on to win the european cup the following season

..... long time ago we are garbage now

[Jay Mc]

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Didn't Aston Villa win the league ( and Champions league) one season using just 12 or 13 players in the whole season ????

We won the old 1st division in 1980/81 using just 14 players all season

went on to win the european cup the following season

[staffslad]

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Not really sure about that. I think their only European Cup success was in the 1981-82 season, though they did win the Super Cup the same year plus a couple of Intertoto Cups.

[Zincubus]

FA Cup Finals

For English leagues:

before 1965 no subs
1965-67 1 sub for injured player
1967 1 sub for any reason
1988 2 subs
1994 2 subs + 1 injured goalie
1995 3 subs

I think friendly internationals allow 6? subs, but I have seen several where more than that were substituted so maybe rules can be relaxed under some circumstances.

Didn't Aston Villa win the league ( and Champions league) one season using just 12 or 13 players in the whole season ????

[staffslad]

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For English leagues:

before 1965 no subs
1965-67 1 sub for injured player
1967 1 sub for any reason
1988 2 subs
1994 2 subs + 1 injured goalie
1995 3 subs

I think friendly internationals allow 6? subs, but I have seen several where more than that were substituted so maybe rules can be relaxed under some circumstances.

[Zincubus]

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In the 70s there was much more contact allowed. If a player was sent off then he really had done something nasty.

I also seem to recall that they only played 11 players in a game and I no substitutes. !?

Is that correct ?? Seems amazing but it sticks in my mind for some reason. ...

[staffslad]

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In the 70s there was much more contact allowed. If a player was sent off then he really had done something nasty.

[Zincubus]

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lol I think I read that article as well. But back then I don't remember the amount of diving, simulation, cheating etc that the game has today. Yes, it went on, but not to the extent that it does now.

I used to catch the occasional sunday league game at our local park in the 70s and they could be rough affairs. Heck, I remember once during a school game one player being sent off by the teacher. That was just a game played during lessons with nothing riding on the outcome.

I recall those games in the 70's when defenders were ALLOWED on reckless tackle from behind on a forward or winger

[staffslad]

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lol I think I read that article as well. But back then I don't remember the amount of diving, simulation, cheating etc that the game has today. Yes, it went on, but not to the extent that it does now.

I used to catch the occasional sunday league game at our local park in the 70s and they could be rough affairs. Heck, I remember once during a school game one player being sent off by the teacher. That was just a game played during lessons with nothing riding on the outcome.

[Richard1978]

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I saw an article where three of our top referees - watched the game and applied today's rules and guidelines ....

Result was 17 sent off ( including the Leeds keeper ) !!

I remember my Uncle mentioned something like that a few years ago.

He played a bit of Sunday league football in the late 1970s - early 80s & the refs had tightened by then, but things could still get rough.

[Zincubus]

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The 1970 final and replay were games that went down in legend as being rough affairs, and deservedly so. The ref was also rather generous in not dishing out cards, though to be fair more contact was expected and tolerated back then. I think the attitude was 'If you can't take a few kicks then you shouldn't be playing.' It truly was a different game back then.

I saw an article where three of our top referees - watched the game and applied today's rules and guidelines ....

Result was 17 sent off ( including the Leeds keeper ) !!

[staffslad]

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The 1970 final and replay were games that went down in legend as being rough affairs, and deservedly so. The ref was also rather generous in not dishing out cards, though to be fair more contact was expected and tolerated back then. I think the attitude was 'If you can't take a few kicks then you shouldn't be playing.' It truly was a different game back then.

[Zincubus]

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My first F.A. Cup final memory is the 1970 Chelsea vs Leeds United game and replay. Hard matches with no quarter asked nor given.

In the 70s and 80s there would be a gradual build-up of national excitement. Remember that back then the F.A. Cup final was one of a very few live matches shown on TV each season. I remember on the friday night before the final, ITV would screen 'Who'll win the Cup' after News at Ten, when pundits would discuss the forthcoming game. BBC would also have an 'It's a Knockout' special featuring teams from the towns/cities represented in that years final. For some reason Eric Morcombe always seemed to turn up on ITV during the build-up. By kick-off, excitement was at fever pitch. I was glued to the match, but started to get worried around 4.30pm if it was still a draw, because if a team didn't win in normal time, extra-time would be played and the BBC would then often cancel Dr. Who.

We seem to share the first FA cup memory