motorbike memories

[Potterton]

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The Yamaha 'fizzies', as in FS1E, was great fun, and mine took me to many places, too fast, for its frame and it's a shame the brakes were not discs as they could be slow to engage. The extra speed and indicators were a step up from my twist and go Honda express.

[fender]

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A Yamaha QT50; still have this 1986 model. I also had a 1982 model. Shaft driven and one very well designed, tough moped.

[fender]

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I used to have a B reg Honda Express 2 too.

[fender]

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A Raleigh Wisp; I also have one like this. Mine is from 1967. It is the Raleigh RSW16 but with a stronger frame and Motobecane engine.

[fender]

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I used to have a 1975 Honda PF50 Novio. It was the 4 stroke version.

[MandM]

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Which motorbikes did you like riding? Did you like British bikes or did you prefer Jap bikes? Can you remember trying to "do the ton" on your BSA bantam going downhill with the wind behind you? Were you a greasy biker or a mod? I'd love to hear your memories

I first started on the road with a motorbike in 1963. However, bikes had been in use within our family for a few years prior to that. My dad owned a single cylinder 250cc Panther in red and my brother owned a 250cc Excelsior twin in green. However, my first bike was a two stroke single. For the old time bikers amongst us it was a "1950ish ex GPO BSA Bantam 125cc D1 plunger" in two tone rust and red. This bike had been used by the post office telegram boys at the time. I remember thinking in my youth that one day I too would one day be a telegram boy zipping round town on a motorbike. However, the heyday of the telegram was coming to an end by the beginning of the sixties. The end of the telegram delivery service was due in the main from the uptake by the public of the telephone. Soon the "General Post Office" would become the "Post Office" and eventually as it is today the "Royal Mail". Each name change heralding a lessening of the "public services" due to re-organisation and eventual privatisation.

But as usual I digress.

I can't remember exactly how it came into my hands but it was probably swapped for something else. The bike was a runner, but best described as being very tatty. I started to clean and fettle the bike with some help from friendly staff at "Wilson Brothers" motorcycles who were located in Rotherham. Fettling included oiling things that had not been oiled for years as well as greasing the chain and sprockets. I cleaned off all the rust and pitted paint from the frame with a wire brush. There was not much of the original paint to be seen by the time I had done. I acquired a tin of red lead paint which was applied with a brush to any bare metal. A bit of rubbing down with some smooth sandpaper and the bike was given a new coat of Stokes red gloss door paint. The Stokes paint factory was nearby and a chat with one of the employee's paid dividends. I thought at the time that the bike looked very good.




Then I did some work on the drum brakes, cleaning and replacing the shoes. I forced grease through the control cables. The grease went in at one end and muck and filth came out at the other. I kept going until clean grease came through. I picked up a single seat from Wilson Brothers which was in much better condition than the original and even came complete with chrome springs. Apart from the nacelle round the headlamp and the exhaust which had been replaced sometime in the past. Otherwise, there was little other chrome on the bike, including the wheels which were painted as standard. I did have a few problems with the lights. After some judicious cleaning of the various connectors and switches plus the replacement of the odd piece of wire here and there the job was eventually done.




The engine, by comparison was in reasonable condition. It started every time - first time. The German born mechanic (Hans?) who worked at Wilson Brothers said the engine could do with a re-bore. As the bike was a two stroke or better known as a "two smoke" it was hard to tell. However, that was way beyond my means at the time. So taking pity, he gave me a new piston and some part worn rings to fit. I even had to borrow some of his tools to get the head and barrel off. Some decoking of the ports was required prior to fitting the new piston and rings. This also needed liberal use of red hermatite because I had to reuse the same gaskets again. The engine was put back together and with some trepidation it started first time. I started to clean off the engine and using different sized wire brushes made a reasonable job of removing years of crud. Where possible I replaced the odd rusty nut or bolts and sometimes even both. I can't remember how long it took to fettle, I would thing a couple of months or maybe a week or two more.


At the time, I thought it looked great. However, after some 48ish years of hindsight - I still think it might have looked good - but possibly only from a reasonable distance and through rose tinted glasses.



My parents had some trepidation about letting me loose on the road. The mechanic from Wilson Brothers had a ride on the bike and pronounced it roadworthy. My mother was not sure. My dad had a ride on it and agreed that it was good for the road. My mother was still not sure. My brother should have been a psychologist as he knew exactly what mother needed to hear. My brother had a ride on it - he came back and said "it's got no power and I could go quicker on a bicycle" my mother felt re-assured. So I was allowed out onto the roads. This started a whole lifetime of riding which I still enjoy very much and continues to this day.


It became obvious as the weather changed towards autumn and then into winter, that my usual apparel of jeans and a duffle coat would not be the best of wet and winter riding attire. So I purchased from the local "Army Stores" a set of leather dispatch rider boots and set of long white wool seaman's socks. This was soon followed by a pair of waterproof over trousers as well as pair of leather gauntlets. The best purchase being a Barbour waxed jacket. All this was topped off with a white scarf, Everoak "pudding basin" helmet and a pair of fighter pilot goggles. I must have been a sight for sore eyes.




I worked at that time in the local steel industry and any surplus cash was diligently saved. After about a year, during which time I had passed my driving test, I had enough money to "trade up" to a more desirable bike. The Bantam which had been used daily to travel to and from work and for the occasional longer trips was traded in. I knew that I did not want another two stroke. So a four stroke it had to be. I purchased a Royal Enfield, Crusader Sports. It was a much more potent beast and at 250cc had enough power to give girls a lift on the back. This bike did a number of long UK camping trips as far as Loch Lomond to the north, Lands End to the south and even to the Isle of Man TT.

Soon the 1966 World Cup event came around and I managed to get some work doing freelance dispatch riding for various newspapers and other organisations. I did a few trips down to London but most of the work was into Manchester, Sheffield Liverpool, Birmingham and Middleborough. I did well enough to buy myself a Triumph Tiger 90 350cc twin to make the work a bit easier. By the end of the event I had had about three months of riding everyday of the week for 12 and sometimes more hours a day. Being paid by three or four different groups for the same trip. Photographic films and small documents made up the majority of the items. The longest day being Sheffield to Birmingham then to London and back to Sheffield. I can remember travelling over parts of the M1 going into and out of London and being able to do many high speed miles.

Many bikes have been through my hands. BSA, Triumph, Norton, Royal Enfield, Matchless, Yamaha, Honda and Suzuki to name a few. I have just sold my Honda Pan European 1300 cc 4 cylinder touring bike. I still have a Honda CBF 600 sports bike. I also own a BMW 1100 boxer ex police bike (Special Escort Group) that was used to escort the funeral hearse at Princess Diana's funeral. The wife is also a biker having had Yamaha, Suzuki and a Honda Varadero. Now she toots around for pleasure on a Honda Monkey bike.

[Bronzegreen]

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grew up on a farm of sorts, miles from anywhere, so had lots of land to tear about on.....I had an old Puch moped (with pedals) and nearest mate had a Honda mini 'monkey bike' . We had so much fun making scramble tracks.

Then turned 16 and got an Yahama ER50...all the 'lads' lived in villages scattered across the Isle of Axholme (between Doncaster & Scunthorpe)
so you just HAD to have a bike to stay in touch. They all had Suzuki 'fizzies', bored-out engines etc

Mine LOOKED nicer..like a proper trial bike..but it was SO slow....get in a headwind and it struggled past 30mph

The ER 50 trial bike was a suzuki and the fizzy was a yamaha. I had a ts50x the taller version of the ts50er. I also had a tzr 125 followed by the well known rd350 ypvs known a the powervalve

[thewww]

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At 16 I started on a Suzuki AP50 the last of the unrestricted mopeds 1977,
the day I turned 17 I had a Yamaha RD250 then when the L plate law changed and all you could ride was a 125cc i got a car,
Decided to take my bike test in 1999 and bought an identical RD250 (1980 model) but it took a lot to keep it running nice so i bought a modern bike (suzuki Bandit)

[grhaffdd]

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I started out swapping a flick knife for a mobylette.
The problem was when I rode it to school, someone grassed, I think it was probably the kid who had
been the coolest kid, longest hair and he rode a mobylette[or similar mop] without an engine and
with apes[easyrider had only just come out] and a tall backrest.
I bought an A10 chop nearly finished for £30 quid or so. I was still to young for a license.
a lot of british bikes followed, one of my faves was a 700 royal enfield, bought it from a Teddy
boy in Ewell and it burst into flames just the other side of Epsom Downs! I had to leave it in
a Funeral Parlour over night and go and push it to a mates caravan on Boxhill the next day.
Lovely bike, even if it had no wiring;-) I swapped it for an A10 engine for my chop, that
would be 1974. I was speaking to some girl in ~1990 and it turned out she was married to
Chris who had the bike. It was still stood against the wall, were I put it in 1974! Everytime
I go through their village I am tempted to go and knock on the door and see if I can have it
back. But he would probably want more than the £10 we agreed on for the engine before he
acpeted the bike.

[Roxxy]

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My sister's first boyfriend had a 1971 BSA Starfire, 250cc- smallish bike, but made enough noise to wake the dead, and weighed a ton nonetheless. We could hear him coming to visit us from several streets away!!

I bought an '82 Vespa P200E when I was 17 with a sidecar on it- my Dad (who can't ride a bike for toffee apples) insisted on riding it home with me in the sidecar, and we had a terrifying crash, down a grass verge and into someone's front porch. Very traumatic, I was lucky to escape serious injury. Ever since then I've been terrified to get on a bike, which is a pity as I'd love to ride properly. I've currently got a '76 Honda CB500T twin cam which I bought a few years ago to save it from being broken up for spares, but I can't do anything with it but look at it and am trying to sell it on to a collector. It's very rare.

[mark1970]

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Remembor boys! P reg mopeds may of had pedals but they didn't have to be restricted! Hence the early Suzuki GT50 was a sales disaster.

Remember these "sports" mopeds?

Honda MB/5 + MT/5,
Honda MBK50 + MTX50,
Kawasaki AR50 + AE50,
Yamaha RD50 + DT50,
Honda SS50?

[airfix]

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wasnt the Suzuki moped the AP50?

Quite right. Suzuki had a few that I remember; as well as the AP50 there was the ZR50 (or X1...I had one of those in 1979) and the tiny tralie moped the TS50. I think there was also a small cruiser job but not sure what it was called.

[ricasso]

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wasnt the Suzuki moped the AP50?

[airfix]

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They all had Suzuki 'fizzies'

Surely you mean Yamaha 'fizzies', as in FS1E. Like this one...



My brother had one just like it.

[Richard1978]

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There used to be a good site on old bikes with many contributions from former owners.

The last time I checked the bookmark I saved didn't work.

In my teens one of my friends used to have a Jawa pedal to go 49cc moped, & later had 125cc & 250cc MZ's.

The hum of the 2 stroke engines they had was always an early indiction that he was about to arrive at my house.