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[tony ingram]

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i felt roger was the best master.
but he was in near every 2nd story in pertwees era.
perhaps thats why he was used less from then on.

although he was in two peter davison stories one being planet of fire where we see peri for the first time.

The Master was actually in only eight out of 24 Pertwee stories, five of them in one season. But he fought Peter Davison not twice but five times: Castrovalva, Time Flight, The King's Demons, The Five Doctors and Planet of Fire. By that time though, he was played by Anthony Ainley; Roger Delgado died in 1973. Ainley's Master also contested with Tom Baker, Colin baker (twice) and Sylvester McCoy. Geoffrey Beevers and Peter Pratt both played the Master during the Tom Baker era, too.

[darren]

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Nation was overrated. Shrewd businessman though. That I'll contend with. I remember McCoy's scarf. Delgado was okay but it became boring and annoying all the storied with UNIT, mainly on Earth (always in the UK!) but there were some memorable ones off planet featuring the Daleks and Giant Spiders! Pertwee's Dr did have some nice Jason King style clothing though. I liked his final story outfit a lot.

I wish they'd do a story post a new regeneration that finally explains why the Doctor dresses in a completely different manner from the previous...maybe a throwaway quip like 'I take what I find' or 'I dunno...its things that flash through my mind as it happens (regenerating) - last time it was bow ties..!'

As for Delgado's Master, well for me he was over - exposed. I really liked the Master when we saw him in The Deadly Assassin. He was crueler, desperate and disgusting to look at clingling to life...His tardis was stupid. I always wondered how you'd 'open the door and get inside' a Grandfather Clock disguise....and the Computer one was odd too. With the Doctors at least its 'in scale' i.e. a normal sized person can open the front door and go inside...Maybe The Master should have one that looks like a shed...Or better yet, a glass green house. It could even look like it has plants inside via the translucent glass...but once inside its his tardis...

I remember McCoys scarves too - silk ones.

i felt roger was the best master.
but he was in near every 2nd story in pertwees era.
perhaps thats why he was used less from then on.

although he was in two peter davison stories one being planet of fire where we see peri for the first time.

[darren]

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No, Nation's family still get royalties. Just because they've been redesigned doesn't mean a thing. His legal savvy was such it basically means if it says 'Dalek' or you want to use the likeness - his family get big bucks. The 'new' Daleks are still Daleks. Nation Family win.

going bu that im surprised they are used as much as they are.
although u cannot have dr who without daleks.

[tony ingram]

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The Master's TARDIS was disguised as a barn in The Trial of a Time Lord...

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Nation was overrated. Shrewd businessman though. That I'll contend with. I remember McCoy's scarf. Delgado was okay but it became boring and annoying all the storied with UNIT, mainly on Earth (always in the UK!) but there were some memorable ones off planet featuring the Daleks and Giant Spiders! Pertwee's Dr did have some nice Jason King style clothing though. I liked his final story outfit a lot.

I wish they'd do a story post a new regeneration that finally explains why the Doctor dresses in a completely different manner from the previous...maybe a throwaway quip like 'I take what I find' or 'I dunno...its things that flash through my mind as it happens (regenerating) - last time it was bow ties..!'

As for Delgado's Master, well for me he was over - exposed. I really liked the Master when we saw him in The Deadly Assassin. He was crueler, desperate and disgusting to look at clingling to life...His tardis was stupid. I always wondered how you'd 'open the door and get inside' a Grandfather Clock disguise....and the Computer one was odd too. With the Doctors at least its 'in scale' i.e. a normal sized person can open the front door and go inside...Maybe The Master should have one that looks like a shed...Or better yet, a glass green house. It could even look like it has plants inside via the translucent glass...but once inside its his tardis...

I remember McCoys scarves too - silk ones.

[tony ingram]

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he didn't?...........then which one did?................was it Tom Baker?

Yes. Though technically, you could also say Sylvester McCoy (his was less memorable, though).

[shilton dipper]

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Jon Pertwee never wore a scarf.

he didn't?...........then which one did?................was it Tom Baker?

[tony ingram]

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* repeats 'annoying' again *...........tsk

Jon Pertwee was brilliant.........he also wore some fab clothes and his scarves are legendary!

so there!

Jon Pertwee never wore a scarf.

[shilton dipper]

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Roger Delgado, ...annoying?! How dare you!

*Falls over, shocked

* repeats 'annoying' again *...........tsk

Jon Pertwee was brilliant.........he also wore some fab clothes and his scarves are legendary!

so there!

[Marine Boy]

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...The Pertwee era Master was okay imho but too much of him was annoying.

Roger Delgado, ...annoying?! How dare you!

*Falls over, shocked

[tony ingram]

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i never knew there was a nation estate and that the beeb have to pay big to use them old ones.
now i see why the coloured ones are used mate.

very unfair nation gets all the credit.
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what are your opinion on the new cybermen we have saw since dr who started again.

It doesn't matter whether it's the old or new ones; they still have to pay, since Nation and his heirs own the concept of the Daleks. The BBC own the design, it's a BBC Trademark.

As for the Cybermen, personally I don't like the new ones. They just look like robots to me. The Cybermen were more effective when you could see that they used to be human.

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sf1378 another enemy we never see is the master who is the evil timelord.
he was a regular in the pertwee yrs we also saw him in peter davisons era in a story called planet of fire.

We have seen him recently. Yana regenerated into the 6th version of the Master as Harold Saxon MP and PM. Then he was in Tennants final outing. He'll be back. I like the fact we see less of him, its better that way.

The Pertwee era Master was okay imho but too much of him was annoying. I HATED the Antony Ainley Master, just hated him.

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i never knew there was a nation estate and that the beeb have to pay big to use them old ones.
now i see why the coloured ones are used mate.

very unfair nation gets all the credit.
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what are your opinion on the new cybermen we have saw since dr who started again.

No, Nation's family still get royalties. Just because they've been redesigned doesn't mean a thing. His legal savvy was such it basically means if it says 'Dalek' or you want to use the likeness - his family get big bucks. The 'new' Daleks are still Daleks. Nation Family win.

[darren]

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sf1378 another enemy we never see is the master who is the evil timelord.
he was a regular in the pertwee yrs we also saw him in peter davisons era in a story called planet of fire.

[darren]

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I don't mind. I've actually got a set of those 'New Paradigm Daleks' in the colours you've mentioned. I quite like them...Daleks a Dalek to me. Just some balsa wood, plastic and whatever else on shopping trolley style wheels with a sink plunger....That Terry Nation made a fortune out of them and royalties for himself and his family after his death - hence the real reason the BBC don't really use them too often, because they have to pay extortionate amounts out to The Nation Estate to use their name, likeness etc in the show...I pity the actual guy that built the iconic look - Nation gave him a VERY rough drawing and an idea, the guy from the BBC props dept refined it and made it into what its now become i.e. an iconic template - all he got was a ONE OFF fee of £99 in around 1962/63....and Nation gets all the credit...

I think it'd be funny for NEW WHO to bring back the Mechanoids - they tried billing them as a deadlier new enemy alternative to Daleks...having seen Mechanoids they reminded me of the hexagonal type shapes on the Blockbusters board on the tv show mentioned in another topic...I think refining a Mechanoid would be an extremely difficult one to exact - challenging too.

i never knew there was a nation estate and that the beeb have to pay big to use them old ones.
now i see why the coloured ones are used mate.

very unfair nation gets all the credit.
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what are your opinion on the new cybermen we have saw since dr who started again.