Black Sabbath

[Elbmek]

Was privileged to be at their last ever concert at the NEC Birmingham. Totally amazing evening, packed out. Previous to that the last time I saw them was when they did a charity concert at Birmingham's Academy shortly after Ozzie's mum died. Only so many tickets available and was lucky to get one of those too. Amongst the crowds were people even from the USA who had flown over for the concert.

[70s kid]

Saw them on same tour at MEN arena.

[Elbmek]

Now that Sabbath are of the past, my 14 years old grand son told me about Sabaton. I am hooked, brilliant Swedish band

[tex]

Hmm, i love metal,especially the original 70s pioneers but when i eventually saw sabbath in the late 80s they were really poor but i think i just caught them on a bad day

[philipdalton]

The term "heavy metal" is a very subjective one, there are lots of bands and artists tagged with the name who are not universally considered to be a part of the genre, even by the musicians themselves in some cases. Black Sabbath, though, are not one of those bands. They are universally considered to be heavy metal, without a doubt. They are the definitive heavy metal band, considered by some to have started the ball rolling

[philipdalton]

Judas Priest singer Rob Halford considers Black Sabbath to be the true pioneers of heavy metal music, but notes that their long-term guitarist Tony Iommi doesn't actually consider them metal. So, in his estimation, if Black Sabbath didn't really invent metal after all, then Judas Priest did It's interesting, as well, to note that Motorhead have always been considered one of the heaviest bands around, while their late bassist Lemmy Kilmister didn't personally agree with the claim that they're a heavy metal group.

[Elbmek]

Going to see Sabaton in December in Nottingham. Going to be a sell out again. Par made a point when he was on stage in Leeds last year. He said 'we first performed in Leeds in 2005 (I think) in a pub and got 68 watching; tonight we have 10,000!!!!' I was there. my son and grandson. Their latest record/video is Hordes of Khan - totally brilliant video and song. They are about to release another Across The Rubicon.