Tv programmes that would not be shown today

[darren]

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Yes thats the one.

[I. R. Fincham]

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I remember someone saying not sure what show it was in put a postman comes to the door and the fella answered thats black mail.

[George 1978]

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I am certain that Love Thy Neighbour was shown as recently as the early 1990s when UK Gold started, and it was probably the first TX of it since the mid 1970s.

[darren]

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I was watching love thy neighbour for the 1st time.
Is it me or does is not seem as bad as say till death do us part+in sickness and in health

rudolph walker who plays bill i think i think he is the teacher in the mr bean episode where bean was taking an exam.

And eddies wife joan in the pilot played by gwendolywn watts then she was played by kate williams guess she was only there for the pilot according to wikipedia the pilot was not broadcast.

would be shown today im a 50/50 on this one.

[agfagaevart]

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I dislike shows looking back at earlier decades for similar reasons that have been mentioned earlier by others. The 70s seems to be a particular favourite for bashing. Mocking fashions and social attitudes seems to be almost compulsary for such programmes. There's an attitude of smug superiority from commentators who often were not even around in the 70s that infuriates me and ensures I switch to another channel, or more usually switch off completely. It seems to not occur to them that in 40 years time there will probably be programmes looking back at the TV, fashions and attitudes of the 2010s with commentators who will find them just as ridiculous--our obsession with celebrities, reality TV and social media for instance...

Of course in the future they will laugh at the stuff we do now; "You mean people used to actually CARRY a mobile phone in their pockets??" These programmes often fail to mention that, there were complaints about certain things that they ridicule now. It's not like there was no Mary Whitehouse around, or people marching against things or complaining about the shows on TV back in the past. Always have been, always willl be.

[Richard1978]

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The 1970s seemed to be mocked a lot in the 1980s, almost as soon as the 70s ended.

Ironically 1970s music & fashions were popular in the 1990s, so many things that would have laughed at a few years earlier were suddenly in fashion.

[George 1978]

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I dislike shows looking back at earlier decades for similar reasons that have been mentioned earlier by others. The 70s seems to be a particular favourite for bashing. Mocking fashions and social attitudes seems to be almost compulsary for such programmes. There's an attitude of smug superiority from commentators who often were not even around in the 70s that infuriates me and ensures I switch to another channel, or more usually switch off completely. It seems to not occur to them that in 40 years time there will probably be programmes looking back at the TV, fashions and attitudes of the 2010s with commentators who will find them just as ridiculous--our obsession with celebrities, reality TV and social media for instance.

Again, we like to mock the past as it is alien to us now without wanting to realise that once upon a time, what happened back then was quite normal. As early as 1986, the 1970s were parodied by comedians - Smith and Jones parodied Open University presenters that were still being seen on Sunday morning BBC 2 back then. BBC 2 is repeating some of the TV That Made Me on weekday afternoons - with ironic 1970s logo and all that. I think that the I Love the 1970s series has something to do with the start of this. If you want a "straight" perspective of the past, go to your nearest library and look at the microfilm editions of old newspapers - it is a lot better in the long run. Even looking at the Radio Times Genome is a lot better than getting something ironic.

It's amazing how things had changed in a short space of time where one could mock something five years previously in the early 1980s. Tucker on Grange Hill was still wearing flared trousers in series 3 (1980) - fast forward two series and Zammo and Jonah were commenting on Roland's trousers, saying that "he's wearing flares". When they were repeated on Sunday morning BBC 2 circa 1994 I assume that a lot of youngsters watching them for the first time as they were too young to remember the first TX would obviously find them both dated.

[George 1978]

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I don't like those shows anymore, for the reasons that you mentioned. Recently, Channel Five broadcast a Top 20 (or summink) Chocolate adverts. And it was a tad disappointing really. Because it was full of non-entities talking waffle and BS about things they were obviously far too young to recall. I think Roland Rivron may have been the oldest person on it. Better to just watch an nice 30 minutes selection of ads on YOU TUBE without any post - moronic comments. I recommend NEIL MILES' and BELFAST JACK'S channels. Yep!

I don't like the "ironic" nostalgia programmes anymore like you just said, but when they were done by someone who knew what they were talking about, they were a lot better. It'll Be Alright on the Night was a lot better when Denis Norden presented it rather than Griff Rhys Jones, or dare I say it, David Walliams! A lot of the good presenters are no longer with us which I suppose is one reason why that sort of genre has gone down hill in the past decade or so.

I have always thought that Les Dawson could play the piano then he should have done so properly - he did some straight acting as well, and a good performer can survive with applause in lieu of laughter.

[staffslad]

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I dislike shows looking back at earlier decades for similar reasons that have been mentioned earlier by others. The 70s seems to be a particular favourite for bashing. Mocking fashions and social attitudes seems to be almost compulsary for such programmes. There's an attitude of smug superiority from commentators who often were not even around in the 70s that infuriates me and ensures I switch to another channel, or more usually switch off completely. It seems to not occur to them that in 40 years time there will probably be programmes looking back at the TV, fashions and attitudes of the 2010s with commentators who will find them just as ridiculous--our obsession with celebrities, reality TV and social media for instance.

On Mike Yarwood, remember that near the end of his shows he would sing a song using the voices of singers like Sinatra, Sammy Davis Jr etc then would say "And this is me" and sing the last part of the song in his own voice.

[agfagaevart]

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I do wish that we had more "TV Heaven" type programmes where old programmes would be scheduled and introduced by someone who was there at the time without some ironic comments from alternative comedians who were five years old when they were on. The I Love the 1970s series were great, but by the time they reached the 1990s, the era they were covering was too recent to get nostalgic over, and besides, a lot of people pointed out inaccuracies in the programme where they had mentioned something which was actually released the year before and all that.

I don't like those shows anymore, for the reasons that you mentioned. Recently, Channel Five broadcast a Top 20 (or summink) Chocolate adverts. And it was a tad disappointing really. Because it was full of non-entities talking waffle and BS about things they were obviously far too young to recall. I think Roland Rivron may have been the oldest person on it. Better to just watch an nice 30 minutes selection of ads on YOU TUBE without any post - moronic comments. I recommend NEIL MILES' and BELFAST JACK'S channels. Yep!

[agfagaevart]

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It is difficult to some people to assume whether they went wrong deliberately or accidently - Les Dawson was hardly Liberace when he played the piano, was he?

A lot entertainers get their niche because they are so bad because sometimes bad is good.

Actually, Les Dawson was a fantastic pianist. The bad playing was all part of his act. Just like Tommy Cooper getting the magic tricks wrong; He did it on purpose after realising one day when he did a trick wrong that the audience loved it. Victor Borge is another one, pretending to be drunk and playing piano out of tune. It was all an act.

[Mulletino]

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I always liked its theme tune!

I loved that show, we used to try and copy it on our BMXs, a few years later a mate got a trials bike so we could do it properly in another mate's garden.

There was a C64 budget title from Mastertronic called "Kikstart" a very very good budget game where you had to ride a motorbike over obstacles, it even had 2 player split screen.
The sequel "Kikstart2" had a course designer and also played the TV Show theme as you played.

[George 1978]

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But Mike Yarwood had to display a good impersonation to succeed. Tommy Cooper had to fumble the magic trick to succeed.
Actually, Coope's tricks didn't really go wrong, it is just the manner in which he performed the trick.

It is difficult to some people to assume whether they went wrong deliberately or accidently - Les Dawson was hardly Liberace when he played the piano, was he?

A lot entertainers get their niche because they are so bad because sometimes bad is good.

[Moonraker]

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But when you think about it, Tommy Cooper was an awful magician as well, but wasn't too bad as a comedian - would he have got as many laughs if his tricks succeeded rather than failed? People used to laugh when Yarwood was on because he was awful, so in many respects it didn't really matter - people laugh at entertainers on stage.

But Mike Yarwood had to display a good impersonation to succeed. Tommy Cooper had to fumble the magic trick to succeed.
Actually, Coope's tricks didn't really go wrong, it is just the manner in which he performed the trick.

[George 1978]

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I think that you have proved my point; Watching repeats is not the same as seeing something when it first aired. Because repeats, especially these days, have been edited.

Indeed - UK Gold wouldn't have existed if wasn't for showing old episodes of sitcoms and dramas in their schedules. I didn't watch Grange Hill as a teenager until 1993 when CBBC had showed the repeats from first series onwards on Sunday mornings at 10.30 am on BBC 2 - anyone of that age in the mid 1990s would be too young to remember the Tucker and Trisha era, until they watched the repeats, that is.

From what I can see, any nostalgia programmes seem to be too ironic or an exaggerated parody. It's very true that it was before I was born, but even through my own eyes a lot of stuff feels like parody - I often go on UK Press Online and look at old editions of the Daily Express and Daily Mirror from that era mostly to look at the old TV schedules but also to look at the old adverts where one sees a lot more clothing retailers such as C&A showing what was the latest thing to wear back then - now I would go along with a newspaper from that era if I wanted to see what the 1970s was like rather than watch a repeat from that era which may have been edited for the benefit of the modern viewer.

I do wish that we had more "TV Heaven" type programmes where old programmes would be scheduled and introduced by someone who was there at the time without some ironic comments from alternative comedians who were five years old when they were on. The I Love the 1970s series were great, but by the time they reached the 1990s, the era they were covering was too recent to get nostalgic over, and besides, a lot of people pointed out inaccuracies in the programme where they had mentioned something which was actually released the year before and all that.

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