Local Derbies

[George 1978]

I think of a local derby in football as something unusual - the fact that if one lived local to a football club, one would have the irony that the away club could be a lot closer to where they are than the home club would be.

Nottingham meant Nottingham Forest v Notts County or vice versa. Forest was my family's side of course.

And of course, it made me think a lot whether Derby County have ever had a local club rival from a football perspective. In other words, has there ever been a Derby derby in football? I did email the Grauniad's football column some time back asking the same question.

What was the most remembered local derby in football? It was probably a Manchester or London one, I bet.

[80sChav]

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great thread idea you have had here, George mate

I love your interesting take on it, but now and say in the last say 30 years things have changed "derby-wise" - mean who would of thought Man City meeting Macclesfield for that one season only in 1999 - then there is both Nottoingham's occasionaly v Mansfield and i have heard Hull City and Middlesbrough is one (at a stretch .... of a Coastline anyhow), as too I have heard that Nottingham Forest and Doncaster and the Sheffield's is (agaain at a strech), though I guess Hull-Middlesbrough is, as historicaly both did used to be in Yorkshire and there is only Scarborough in-between

80sChav

[zabadak]

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Let's not forget Liverpool vs Tranmere!

[80sChav]

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Let's not forget Liverpool vs Tranmere!

Par any friendlies - I think this has happened like once in the last 40 years possibly lol

[80sChav]

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Glasgow Rangers and Ayr are anotherr Teams who met far more frequently then than they did now - i recall too

80sChav

[80sChav]

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A distant family member gave me some Sticker Albums about 30 or so years back - - most have fallen a-part but i shall treasure them for forever, as 1 is 1978 and 1982 and the 1982 even included a foil badge and club photo for Clubs as far as the 3rd Division (old, old - not the 1 that inherited the title from the old 4th Division - but the last one in 1991/1992)

I recall that Re; the 1978 it has Mansfeld's sole season in D2 in it when i believe they played nottingham Forest for their only time in Leauge History (which must've been a superb Derby I think - from a Town-City Outlook), as well they played Southampton and tottenham in that 1 Season

Moving on to the 1980s - Darlington had Middlesbrough in Division for the 2nd time in 1986 after Middlesbrough's previous one spell in D3 in the mid 60s, as well as Middlesbrough and York being a Derby that year

There was also too many Lancashire Derbys in the mid 80s in Divisions 3 and 4 with many of these oldest known members, slipped so far like Bolton, Preston NE and Burnley

80sChav

[zabadak]

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O/T but for a shirt derby, how about when Burnley, Villa and West Ham were all in the prem...!

[Richard1978]

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Did Middlesbrough get to play Hartlepool much when they were in the lower divisions?

[80sChav]

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Did Middlesbrough get to play Hartlepool much when they were in the lower divisions?

No richard they did'nt - what your possibly thinking of is when Middlesbrough nearly went bust in 1986/87, - though they did and add to re-form but was allowed under the same name but with a new date of origin, when they got thown out of Ayresome Park for a short time (like when Coventry had to lodge at Northampton a few years back) and Hartlepool kindly loaned them their ground for a few games

Middlesbrough never forgot that when Hartlepool sank into the Confrence last season and nearly themselves went bust and Middlesbrough held collections for Hartlepool .... that to/for me is real "Derby Spirit" and helping out your Neighbours, which I could not see for say rivals like West Ham and Brentford or Southampton and Portsmouth or Villa and Birmingham etc may-be

80sChav

[zabadak]

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Let's not forget Liverpool vs Tranmere!

Recent friendly

[80sChav]

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Did Middlesbrough get to play Hartlepool much when they were in the lower divisions?

I am certain they met Darlington twice on both occassions (of each consisting of 1 Season in the 3rd Division, Richard) and by pure coincidence both seasons spanned ones endoing in 6 to 7, being 1966/67 and 1986/87)

You are probably possibly thinking, Richard of 1986/87 when Middlesbrough had no money and the baliffs knocking on the door and old Ayresome Park got closd down at the start of the Season and Hartlepoool offered them a home, which I recall well as being one of my first real memories of getting into Footy then!

80sChav