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  • beccabear67
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    The English speaking world has been subjected to the most disinformation, both very deliberate and carried further by fringe 'true believers' who somehow think themselves smart while swallowing conspiracies and lies hook line and sinker as they used to say! Alternate realities are best left to science fiction, and one thing it's good for is the cautionary tale (so we don't have to actually live these grand visions).

    Just a few weeks ago a friend in the U.S. wrote that masks don't stop the virus, utterly misunderstanding (yet again I might add) the entire principle behind them and why surgeons and the like have worn them for decades during operations. This is after ten months of living with this situation someone can still get in a twist spreading a simplistic talking point from who know where. Well, wearing a mask can't harm anyone, but a lot of people not wearing them absolutely is proven to have. I hate learning things the hard way and more than once!

    We stay as safe as we can while doing the things we find necessary and best wishes to all, even the anti-maskers and anti-vaccers!

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  • amethyst
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    There were crowds out and about on Sunday walking along a beach in Tynemouth the car park was full,come off it they travelled by car for exercise which your not supposed to do.Sainsburys have said only 1 member of the family to shop which is a brilliant idea like back in March 2020.Morrisons have said no face mask no entry.B&Q should be click and collect only to stop customers from browsing I have been told they still take children and babies with them,what's wrong with people stay at home.

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  • Mulletino
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    Goes to show the differences in how it's being handled in each country. We (Queensland, Australia) had our first transmitted case for months last week, from a cleaner working in a quarantine hotel. Basically our borders are effectively closed but anyone coming back to the country has to spend 14 days in a quarantine hotel at their own expense, so this cleaner worked at one of these and caught the "UK strain" of COVID. As that one is highly contagious our government decided to have a three day lockdown, where we could only travel if absolutely necessary and you HAD to wear a mask outside, even alone in your own car or excercising. This was to allow for contact traccing and to avoid spread. We all did this and there was only one further transmitted case which was the cleaner's partner, who had been in lockdown since the cleaner was found to be infected.
    Our "lockdown" has finished but we're required to wear masks for a further 10 days just in case. We had another case, but that was someone who was infected in Victoria, then qurantined and they let her go without testing and then told our government she'd arrived here, so she was tested and found positive! Pretty crappy of them tbh, they'd had months of serious lockdown because they couldn't control their cases, seems they were trying to nobble our efforts here.

    Been keeping up with the COVID news in the UK as my family are still there, I can't believe there are still idiotic protestors denying this thing is real. I really hope I get to hug my parents/brother/sister again one day.

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  • Richard1978
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    My wife has been trying to keep our trips out to a minimum & was right about not seeing anyone over Christmas as this seems to have caused a spike in numbers.

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  • amethyst
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    Then there's the minority of deniers who still think it's a hoax or a bad cold,wake up this virus is going to be around in 2021 unfortunately even when most of the population have been vaccinated the ones who refuse it will keep on spreading it around

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  • George 1978
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    I correctly assumed that there would be more than 1,000 deaths in one day this week.

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  • beccabear67
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    Deadliest day of the virus in the U.S. yesterday, still people gathering in large numbers (cough) some of which I know made ITV, Sky and BBC news. Here there's been a scandal of politicians who would tell people not to travel and then went off to vacation in some warmer country! Land crossings at borders would stay closed month after month but so often not the airways. effectively one law for the privileged and wealthy and another for the rest of us poor shlubs. It does a lot to undermine following orders when those issuing them aren't practicing what they preach, makes me sad more than angry, this whole thing is sad in how most of us should've been more prepared, informed and able to make better decisions. I guess a few places like South Korea and New Zealand have done about as well as you could ask. This virus can be deadly and even when not it can cause lasting damage to health, and hopefully the vaccines are going where and to whom most needed. I am content to wait for awhile, after my two late seventies parents of course, and after direct health care and infrastructure jobs people. Not so thrilled seeing a politician or desk person getting them, but they say they'd be criticized if they didn't and that it might make some doubt the safety. That is a self-inflicted situation right there from conspiracy type websites.

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  • darren
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    very sad to hear things have been bad for u and ur family.

    But after every dark cloud a rainbow comes.
    U could say the vaccines are that rainbow


    Originally posted by adamscott
    this is a serious topic, everyone in my family has been ill, some family members - with very bad consequences. I doubt the pure biological origin of the virus, and i hope that soon we will be given a vaccine ...

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  • amethyst
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    Here we go again 5 teir lockdowns schools shut till after half term no exams this year

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  • beccabear67
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    I suppose the odds are it's not. My brother had the test after getting a cough recently and it wasn't.

    I'm worried about two different friends who are in wheelchairs, both have mentioned people without masks getting into the elevator of their buildings with them. I take the stairs wherever it's just a matter of a floor or two, because I can, but so many just don't think of that... the disabled truly have no choice in the matter! It's terrible to think of them being exposed because of some thoughtless person. One friend told the two maskless young men he didn't want them in the elevator but they ignored his request! Now it's been awhile since hearing from him.

    There was reporting the other day the U.S. administration was following a heard immunity 'plan' from the start practically! There was a quote of "we want them infected" in some memo, you could probably google that phrase for more info. Shocking even given how goofy things have been. Herds and herd immunity is all dumb animals can manage, I would hope for something better. Sweden abandoned the idea before long as it was not a good strategy if a strategy it can be called at all.

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  • George 1978
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    I have had a bit of a cough for the past couple of weeks but I refuse to assume that it is connected to COVID.

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  • beccabear67
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    My understanding is that the Pfizer vaccine is more artificial or synthetic than the Moderna one, so people who might not tolerate it (I have an allergy to latex rubber and wonder if I might be one) might be fine with the other(s). I do trust Pfizer, am on a medication they make for years now and have no complaints.

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  • amethyst
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    Originally posted by avocado
    The coronavirus actually appeared unexpectedly. If I had been told a year ago that there would be big problems in the world in 2020, I would have thought that there must be a war, or natural disasters, or a serious economic crisis. But I just couldn't think there could be an epidemic.

    It seemed to me that such catastrophes remained in the past centuries. I thought that this could not happen with today's modern medicine. But no, it happened. And I'm really surprised that
    it’s possible. I do not know how the world will get out of this problem now, but I know for sure that the consequences will be reminiscent for a very long time.

    I just really hope that these vaccines will help us and we will finally start forgetting the coronavirus as a nightmare.
    It came a shock to the world and when I first heard about it I thought this is not good at all.They say even with a vaccine you still have to wear a mask and distance because you don't know who's had the vaccine or not

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  • George 1978
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    I found it interesting about the fact that some people can have allergies if they had the vaccine - I bet that there will be someone who will get the virus and are allergic to the vaccine, so what happens if that is the case? Six of one and half a dozen of the other methinks.

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  • George 1978
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    I still think of Viagra when I hear Pfizer's name.

    Anyway, I would agree to have the vaccine if it was offered to me - I can vaguely remember the MMR and the tetanus and whooping cough vaccine that I had in around 1984.

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