Doctor Who!

[Marine Boy]

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Oh...its clear what I meant. If you can't understand it thats that. Loads of people think sci fi's a load of twoddle, but they can still read it and enjoy it for what it is but at the same time think, thats a load of rubbish and laugh at it too - like me. You've both answered the stupid question 'female dr' but its clear what I meant by 'fancying the Dr' not including myself in that statement, I meant the general male audience for the show - they'd naturally inject a 'sexiness into a supposed female version' which would turn on its head loads of stuff from the shows history...if you don't understand what I've now elaborated on then carry on with what seems a pale imitation online of John Le Mesurier's art of being perplexed...

That's an incredibly judgmental post, saying all kinds of things that I didn't mean or even suggest. As I said before, I hate the confrontational thing. I'd be happy to leave it there, sf1378.

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The BBC would never risk alienating a huge chunk of the audience with such a move.

True. Very true.

Lets discuss something else now. I'm actually hopeful that the anniversary won't include 11 Doctors in it - need something different - maybe have 11 whizzing through key stories of his past incarnations with some clever CGI trickery to integrate him into bits but not be seen by his former selves? I did enjoy The 5 Doctors but they did look...old, past it really and its a bit naff having him argue with himself - you'd think he'd simply outguess and say what the other would probably go to say etc?

Maybe a story that finally reveals why he left Gallifrey, took the Tardis and what ever happened to his Grand Daughter would be nice...but like I said, it'll still be an 1hr or so of twoddle ha ha!

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sf1378: Well it doesn't answer it. I'm astonished at your first sentence. You're condemning all sci fi literature with that arguement. And why do you assume you may be asked to fancy a female Doctor? I'm sorry you don't know why I'm perplexed. But this is a forum for debate and I will always enjoy that.

Oh...its clear what I meant. If you can't understand it thats that. Loads of people think sci fi's a load of twoddle, but they can still read it and enjoy it for what it is but at the same time think, thats a load of rubbish and laugh at it too - like me. You've both answered the stupid question 'female dr' but its clear what I meant by 'fancying the Dr' not including myself in that statement, I meant the general male audience for the show - they'd naturally inject a 'sexiness into a supposed female version' which would turn on its head loads of stuff from the shows history...if you don't understand what I've now elaborated on then carry on with what seems a pale imitation online of John Le Mesurier's art of being perplexed...

[tony ingram]

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The BBC would never risk alienating a huge chunk of the audience with such a move.

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This is a non-issue. The idea of a female Doctor was first put forward as a joke by John Nathan-Turner in 1981, and it's been resurrected by the newspapers every few years ever since; every time there's any prospect of a new Doctor, someone brings up the same thing. I can't believe anyone thinks it's a new idea or that it would ever actually happen.

Its really a publicity fodder thing that the BBC use for the show. So your of the belief it wouldn't happen? I don't want it to happen - obviously. Its basically jumping the shark a la Happy Days...

[Marine Boy]

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This is a non-issue. The idea of a female Doctor was first put forward as a joke by John Nathan-Turner in 1981, and it's been resurrected by the newspapers every few years ever since; every time there's any prospect of a new Doctor, someone brings up the same thing. I can't believe anyone thinks it's a new idea or that it would ever actually happen.

I was talking more on the lines of 'in theory'. I don't think it will happen either.

[Marine Boy]

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sf1378: Well it doesn't answer it. I'm astonished at your first sentence. You're condemning all sci fi literature with that arguement. And why do you assume you may be asked to fancy a female Doctor? I'm sorry you don't know why I'm perplexed. But this is a forum for debate and I will always enjoy that.

[tony ingram]

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This is a non-issue. The idea of a female Doctor was first put forward as a joke by John Nathan-Turner in 1981, and it's been resurrected by the newspapers every few years ever since; every time there's any prospect of a new Doctor, someone brings up the same thing. I can't believe anyone thinks it's a new idea or that it would ever actually happen.

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Well it is stupid because its make believe hokum - we don't have time travel - no matter how cleverly written sci fi can be its all stupid really, compared to real world issues. I can watch it, either enjoy it or not, I find myself thinking - sf1378, you know an awful lot about this irrelevant programme really. However, certain aspects of it even to me, are established - he's male being the foremost one. I just think it takes something away from it by changing the characters sex. I fail to see whats so perplexing about my comments - it even amazes me it irks me so much that I feel this way about a load of twoddle thats lucked out and ran and ran as long as it has but it does. I guess I just like this one aspect to remain the same, actors in the role come and go, whether young or old but I do like the fact he's male and thats one aspect that should remain - it wouldn't work otherwise. Going from liking the character to fancying 'her'? No thanks. That should answer it for you MM.

[Marine Boy]

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I do. I just think its ridiculous - bit like suddenly having 'Miss Marple' being a HE. Or Columbo as a SHE...it just doesn't work. If they'd done a '12 lives as a male, 12 lives as a female' rule way back when maybe I'd stomach it but this idea of 'suddenly hes a she' is ridiculous...its appeasing the feminists and all that twoddle that made the notion come up in the first place.

I don't care if I'm taken as sexist in my comments, its a stupid show but some facets of it are 'holy' i.e. hes male.

If they made the Doctor female, I doubt it would have anything to do with 'appeasing the feminists'. I'm a little perplexed how you can feel something is so 'holy' if you think it's a "stupid show". Why do you care so much? I'm not being awkward or confrontational. I'm just interested.

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I do. I just think its ridiculous - bit like suddenly having 'Miss Marple' being a HE. Or Columbo as a SHE...it just doesn't work. If they'd done a '12 lives as a male, 12 lives as a female' rule way back when maybe I'd stomach it but this idea of 'suddenly hes a she' is ridiculous...its appeasing the feminists and all that twoddle that made the notion come up in the first place.

I don't care if I'm taken as sexist in my comments, its a stupid show but some facets of it are 'holy' i.e. hes male.

[Marine Boy]

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Just trying to lighten the mood up Tony. I just like taking the proverbial out of the show.

I really wouldn't like it if the Daily Mails story that Lara Pulver will become 'The Doctor' after the anniversary. As far as I'm concerned the characters MALE. Its established, afterall, hes over 900 yrs old. They also have TIME LADIES on his homeworld, or did. Anyhow, it'd be the death knell to little boys as the toys make tonnes of cash with the male lead. I just think its all feminist pc twoddle saying 'can't he be a she?' Nonsense. If they were to have done such a thing it would have happened years and years ago. Neil Gaiman's 'Corsair' comment 'he/she' was really a load of rubbish too...Time Lords, Time Ladies, not any of this changing sex rubbish. I really will hate the show if they go down that route...

I've never had a problem with the idea of the Doctor being a female. And maybe some of the Time Ladies we have seen in the past were males at some point in their previous lives.

But I hadn't thought about the toy figure angle for boys. You may have a point there.

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Just trying to lighten the mood up Tony. I just like taking the proverbial out of the show.

I really wouldn't like it if the Daily Mails story that Lara Pulver will become 'The Doctor' after the anniversary. As far as I'm concerned the characters MALE. Its established, afterall, hes over 900 yrs old. They also have TIME LADIES on his homeworld, or did. Anyhow, it'd be the death knell to little boys as the toys make tonnes of cash with the male lead. I just think its all feminist pc twoddle saying 'can't he be a she?' Nonsense. If they were to have done such a thing it would have happened years and years ago. Neil Gaiman's 'Corsair' comment 'he/she' was really a load of rubbish too...Time Lords, Time Ladies, not any of this changing sex rubbish. I really will hate the show if they go down that route...

[tony ingram]

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Still a bit baffled as to what's wrong with being a fan. I've been a Doctor Who fan all my life but if it upsets people I'll stay out of the thread.

[Marine Boy]

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Is this thread going to run for the whole duration of the shows history? Yes, lots of us like the show, or some aspects of it but this is more like 'MasterMind' with the overly encyclopaedic knowledge being posted again and again...its things like this that put me off the show and even talking about it.

Its a bit like asking Tony when someone farted in what episode and at what precise minute in the dvd playback? I suppose he'd know the answer to it as well....lol. Did a Sea Warrior fart then in the 1984 story?

I don't think this thread is especially fan-ish. I'm enjoying it in a general chat kind of way.