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  • absinthe_boy
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    The cassette is dead.....long live the cassette!

    During 2020/21 I tested new cassette tape from no fewer than four manufacturers keen to re-enter the market. Though I suspect they will remain a niche, they have made something of a comeback.

    I still use my Walkman at times it got some chuckles from an security bod at Luton airport a couple of years ago. I did stop using cassettes round about the turn of this century as I reckoned I'd just record to my PC and burn CDs, later make MP3 files for my phone. What killed the cassette was cheap recordable CDs and cars moving to CD players and then to SD cards and Bluetooth. THe thing is, I used to record a lot of concerts from FM radio as well as recording news and politics and that's actually rather a faff on the computer. In 2012 when BBC Radio 2 broadcast a special gig with The Beach Boys complete with Brian Wison (who I was going to see a couple of days later) I decided to dust off the cassette recorder. And I discovered just how much better FM radio is than DAB. And rediscovered the joy of simply recording to cassette. And I haven't turned back. I've recorded a load of "BBC Radio 2 In Concert" to cassette, BBC proms and some of the more interesting political events as reported on Radio 4 and Radio 5.

    As for 8 bit computers, generally they used audio cassettes for data storage becuase floppy disc drives in the early to mid 80s cost more than the computers themselves! And those old cassettes have held up well, I've got ZX81 tapes from as far back as 1981 which still work today....though I prefer to take advantage of a modern SD card interface for my ZX81 and an ethernet adaptor for my Spectrum. In an era when even a fairly low end home computer cost a couple of weeks wages for many people, the ability to use your existing TV (rather than a monitor) and to store data on a cassette recorder you probably already had was of great benefit. And we generally didn't mind waiting 5-10 minutes for a tape to load because we knew no better.

    Sadly one thing there will probably never be again is a truly decent cassette deck. The only mechanisms in production today are very cheap Chinese ones. A good cassette mechanism is a high precision electro-mechanical marvel that would cost too much given that it's a niche product. By comparison there are now three hi-fi reel to reel tape decks in production and they cost in excess of 10 grand each....with a spool of blank tape setting you back a cool £50-100. At least new cassettes are only about £4

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  • Arran
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    I think there must have been plenty of kids who tried playing a computer game cassette in a stereo out of curiosity back in the 1980s. It sounded vaguely similar to when you dialled the fax number instead of the phone number.

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  • George 1978
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    Originally posted by beccabear67 View Post
    I remember cassettes for desktop computers before I saw any disc drives... I never thought to see if there'd be any sound on an audio player from one of those data cassettes.
    I played one of them on a hi-fi at home, and all I heard was a strange sounding tone going up and down, and something which was not much interest to an average listener of a cassette tape - something more suited to an average 1980s BBC computer.

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  • Arran
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    There must have been cassette tapes manufactured specifically for the distribution of computer games that were about 10 minutes long. Any ideas if the tape stock was the same for standard audio cassettes or was it higher grade?

    I have seen some 'flippy' cassette tapes that have the game for one computer on the A side and the game for a different computer on the B side. A clever idea to save on shelf space in shops.

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  • beccabear67
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    Originally posted by George 1978 View Post
    In the mid 1980s there were some special cassette tapes for computers which were around ten minutes long on each side just for using them on those machines - my sister did comuter studies at the time and I remember her bringing one home with her, probably as a form of homework.
    I remember cassettes for desktop computers before I saw any disc drives... I never thought to see if there'd be any sound on an audio player from one of those data cassettes.

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  • beccabear67
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    I used to love cassettes for music, I remember local area artistes would put their own music out on that format although to me nothing seemed more real than black vinyl and we did have one group put out a 7" single via a record shop (which I still have). I also did buy pre-recorded cassette releases for albums at a certain point, but while you could make a cassette from a vinyl album you could not make a vinyl album from the cassette!

    As for data...
    Last edited by beccabear67; 23-01-2025, 18:48.

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  • George 1978
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    In the mid 1980s there were some special cassette tapes for computers which were around ten minutes long on each side just for using them on those machines - my sister did comuter studies at the time and I remember her bringing one home with her, probably as a form of homework.

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  • Richard1978
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    Originally posted by Arran View Post
    Has anybody experienced software on cassette tapes on computers at school - and having to wait for it to load? The BBC B / Master has a cassette interface port. I'm sure that plenty of schools in the 1980s didn't have (or couldn't afford?!) floppy drives for their computers.

    Does loading software from cassette tapes feature in any old episodes of Grange Hill? How about playing a computer cassette in a stereo with all the weird screeching sounds?

    I'm from the hard drive and Encarta on CD ROM era.
    I had an Acorn Electron with all the software on tape. Occasionally the tape needed positioning to a particular place, & the data recorder had a feature where the speaker could be used to listen to the tape to help things. It was a screechy sound, but not too bad when you fast forwarded or rewound it!

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  • Arran
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    Has anybody experienced software on cassette tapes on computers at school - and having to wait for it to load? The BBC B / Master has a cassette interface port. I'm sure that plenty of schools in the 1980s didn't have (or couldn't afford?!) floppy drives for their computers.

    Does loading software from cassette tapes feature in any old episodes of Grange Hill? How about playing a computer cassette in a stereo with all the weird screeching sounds?

    I'm from the hard drive and Encarta on CD ROM era.

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  • George 1978
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    I got myself a CD radio cassette recorder just a few years ago, and as recently as a couple of years ago I used a cassette tape (a TDK brand - certainly not a "market stall" brand) in order to record various tracks from my CD collection; Lene Lovich; Toni Basil; The Masionettes; Boyzone; and others onto a C60. It's great that one can still do this, the stereo feel can still be apparent on some tracks, although it is recommended that one plays it back on the same machine that it was recorded on; the same with video recordings. I have noticed that playing them back on another radio cassette recorder of another brand, the tape sounds slightly slow, but then again the radio cassette recorder that I had in the 1980s was very much like that.

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  • Arran
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    Cassette tapes used to be used for games on 8 bit computers.

    It must be a strange feeling having to connect your computer to your stereo then waiting between 5 and 10 minutes for the game to load before you could play it, for anybody used to instantly loading games on a console or mobile phone.

    Does anybody remember how toy shops and big newsagents back in the 1980s often had a shelf of computer game cassettes selling for £1.99 or £2.99 each?

    Any ideas when the last computer game was published on cassette tape?

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  • 80sChav
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    Originally posted by AliciaMayson1985 View Post
    Re: Death of the cassette

    My father has a whole cupboard full of old cassettes with some of the old songs on them. I remember many years ago when we used to sit down in the room, listening to the music coming from his stereo.

    Those were some pretty good times. Kind of pity that CD have pretty much superseded cassettes. The magic can never be replaced.
    I miss the Days of Tapes and CD's in Cars - sadly now the last Car Company (forgot who) are doing the last CD player this year in the UK for Radios

    Very very sad indeed

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  • George 1978
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    I still have a radio cassette recorder in the front room, and so as far as I am concerned, the cassette tape is still alive and breathing...

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  • Semi42
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    Could be soundhog tapes

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/286020951...caAv09EALw_wcB

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  • Brighton71
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    Hi can any one help I am 80s child and I'm trying to remember a tape brand the case was orange with a weird animal on the front

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