Bullying

[Arran]

Re: Bullying

The most distressing situation - apart from bullied kids committing suicide - is when they can't take the stress of bullying any more so they retaliate against or take revenge on a bully in a horrifically violent way usually to cause permanent lasting damage to them. Revenge and retaliation is highly illegal and something that the school and the police take an extremely dim view of. More often than not the bullied kid ends up with a criminal record for ABH or is even jailed in a YOI.

It's not uncommon for colleges and universities to refuse to allow people with criminal records for ABH onto their courses even if it is a result of bullying in the past.

[darren]

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Its more up to the teachers to stop bullying than the pupils who are being bullied.
I wonder the parents who have been bullied at work did it toughen them up so they feel it will toughen up there own kids.
Maybe it can work but i doubt it.

In my time at school i saw some awful things even the teachers got bullied by some pupils.

Like one time in secondary school where the teachers a young lady was in trs for what was said to her maybe she should toughen up too.

it can scar kids for life bullying can.

one of the worst scenarios are when a parent lets their kids get bullied at school because they have been bullied at work. They hold the view that their kids need to toughen up, be more assertive, and learn to defeat bullying at school because otherwise they will not survive office politics and bullying at work in the future.

[Richard1978]

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One of the worst scenarios are when a parent lets their kids get bullied at school because they have been bullied at work. They hold the view that their kids need to toughen up, be more assertive, and learn to defeat bullying at school because otherwise they will not survive office politics and bullying at work in the future.

A good way to mentally scar people for life!

[Twocky61]

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Being bullied is what spurred Brenda Spencer to go into school to shoot everyone that Monday morning (Re. Boomtown Rats hit "I Don't Like Mondays')

[Arran]

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One of the worst scenarios are when a parent lets their kids get bullied at school because they have been bullied at work. They hold the view that their kids need to toughen up, be more assertive, and learn to defeat bullying at school because otherwise they will not survive office politics and bullying at work in the future.

[80sChav]

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i cant believe it but sadly in a way im not surprised.it happens.

I cant imagine how tough it is being a teacher nowadays.

Is school any rougher now than it was thirty yrs ago.
Hard to say.

In different ways it is Darren mate yer - but it is a tricky, tricky call!

You know my story (as do a few select others ) on here without me repeating it - but summing up (pardoning my Maths pun here) on that is that I still dunno if it is bad or worse or better these days as a lot of School's have gone total PC and outlawed even anything that resembles being jovial I here - but hand on heart I can say that I am glad I met these bullies at School (who tried to call themselves "so called mates") when the flight took their fancy, coz I know a fair few of their stories after leaving that school and yer they are not bad guys in retrospect I guess/but not people you'd wish to mix with either. If I ever had my time again "boy though would I do School differently" but these guys taught me that they are probably the most rancid evil people going who aren't even worth scrapping off the bottom of your shoe! I am fairly positive I "could" of passed them out and about a few times .... but hey it is nearly 30 years since when I was 11 to 13 and v versa and they'd never know me from Adam and me them I sense. In the main though they are probably not even worthy of Cleaner Job Status at MacDonalds - which I always knew they'd "only" amount to and without appearing arrogant (like many a person I have spoken to on Forums in similar Boats) and in real life too - yer I am not married/have a partner etc, but who has done best is often the phrase coined I think!! Versus these kind of Bullies everyone has met I think it is fair to say at least 65% of the answer is positive for the bullied guy/gal not the bully!!

80sChav

[havasack]

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I don't honestly feel there is any deterrent for bullying in schools except for the expulsion of the bullies. Even then there is a good probability it will continue out of school. Both me and my sister had it bad both in and out of school. Our parents intervention only made matters worse. I had to endure it for many years both in and out of that place. My sister however in the end got home tuition and she got so bad with it that she physically could not go to school. We both suffer from long term health problems today which started some 30+ years ago at secondary. I assume the long term bullying was the start of the problem. We got no help at all ,especially from the school.

I think there is an answer and a quite simple one. The headteacher at the school should make it explicit to the children (and parents, no child will be allowed in school without the parent(s) having been to school for "the meeting") that any bullying will be met with the law. If an adult gets smacked and they can prove it, witnesses etc then it's assault, same should go for kids and the police will be involved. Same with sexual assault, lifting of skirts etc.

[spuggybridge]

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Got bullied a bit in the infants, but apart from the usual arguments etc never happened in school after that, however I think it will unfortunately always happen its just the way kids are, they don't realise the consequences of their actions at that age.

[80sChav]

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Wow what a story.

Pretty shocking story you really never can tell why a bully bullies or why he is the way he is.

Itv was well known my secondary school didnt seem to care about students being bullied or could not stop it.

Seen teachers getting hit by pupils so even the teachers got bullied.
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Agreed we all know guys like this (I sure did at school to) but they didn't get bullied for it

Sadly most do though - for being harmless and a bit eccentric like Billy was!

[trip2themoon]

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Wow what a story.

Pretty shocking story you really never can tell why a bully bullies or why he is the way he is.

Itv was well known my secondary school didnt seem to care about students being bullied or could not stop it.

Seen teachers getting hit by pupils so even the teachers got bullied.
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Poor old Billy did get it pretty bad but he did seem to invite it a little. Talking with some of my friends in the year above me no one seemed to actually hate him but when he came away with stuff like "I can block out pain" they were powerless to resist.


A few years later Billy actually admitted to being a compulsive liar to save himself from a beat-down when he told a guy who was skinning up in front of him that he was a police officer. Billy used to walk around our local shopping centre in his fake police outfit (I'm not sure Billy even realised that his Metropolitan Police jumper was from London police) and he'd talk into his collar like a radio and like he was in the Bill with the "sierra one to control" patter. He was genuinely nuts, but harmless nuts.

[darren]

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Wow what a story.

Pretty shocking story you really never can tell why a bully bullies or why he is the way he is.

Itv was well known my secondary school didnt seem to care about students being bullied or could not stop it.

Seen teachers getting hit by pupils so even the teachers got bullied.
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i've always gotten the impression that the school's staff seem to have a "what do you want/expect us to about it?" kind of attitude towards bullying.

When i was in high school there was a boy in the year above me who was a bit nuts (not i'll do you nuts but idiotic nuts) and a compulsive liar. He told all the boys in his year that he was a fully trained ninja and part of his ninja training was that he block out and feel no pain. I don't know what he was thinking when he told everyone this? Perhaps he thought people would leave him alone if they thought he was a ninja but unfortunately for him no one believe him and of course many of the boys were happy to test his pain blocking (or lack of) abilities.

I was walking down the stairs one lunchtime and got to the last landing before the ground floor and at the bottom were 3 of the boys from the year above me surrounding billy (the ninja) and taking turns slapping him in the face. I could here stuff like "take the pain billy" then slap. I knew them all from where i grew up so i said "alright lads, what's happening?", that's where they explained everything and offered me a shot at testing billy's pain resistance abilities. I politely refused, i'm not that snide that i'd add to his misery but i do remember thinking "rather him than me".

A couple of years later one of my mates from the year above told me that billy was actually inbred and his grandad is his dad, a man who raped his daughter. I don't know how true or not that claim is i'd say it's believable because of how messed up in the head billy is/was.

[trip2themoon]

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I've always gotten the impression that the school's staff seem to have a "what do you want/expect us to about it?" kind of attitude towards bullying.

When I was in high school there was a boy in the year above me who was a bit nuts (not I'll do you nuts but idiotic nuts) and a compulsive liar. He told all the boys in his year that he was a fully trained ninja and part of his ninja training was that he block out and feel no pain. I don't know what he was thinking when he told everyone this? Perhaps he thought people would leave him alone if they thought he was a ninja but unfortunately for him no one believe him and of course many of the boys were happy to test his pain blocking (or lack of) abilities.

I was walking down the stairs one lunchtime and got to the last landing before the ground floor and at the bottom were 3 of the boys from the year above me surrounding Billy (the ninja) and taking turns slapping him in the face. I could here stuff like "take the pain Billy" then slap. I knew them all from where I grew up so I said "alright lads, what's happening?", that's where they explained everything and offered me a shot at testing Billy's pain resistance abilities. I politely refused, I'm not that snide that I'd add to his misery but I do remember thinking "rather him than me".

A couple of years later one of my mates from the year above told me that Billy was actually inbred and his grandad is his dad, a man who raped his daughter. I don't know how true or not that claim is I'd say it's believable because of how messed up in the head Billy is/was.

[80sChav]

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We had a "tie hierchary" too re bullying in-particular as well as that at others School that in the way that if your Blazer button wasn't Gold/Bronze

[80sChav]

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Not to mention if it wasn't physical or verbal bullying at my Schools ... you got bullied for fastening/not fastening your Blazer Top/Button Up, if you had Cords or plain School Trousers or if you had a Coat or not, how you did your Tie (which Had to be on the thin side out only), if your Shirt was in or not, if you had good Trainers/Footy Boots for PE, if you had School Dnners or not/how you did your work! The list was endless! v

[battyrat]

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I don't honestly feel there is any deterrent for bullying in schools except for the expulsion of the bullies. Even then there is a good probability it will continue out of school. Both me and my sister had it bad both in and out of school. Our parents intervention only made matters worse. I had to endure it for many years both in and out of that place. My sister however in the end got home tuition and she got so bad with it that she physically could not go to school. We both suffer from long term health problems today which started some 30+ years ago at secondary. I assume the long term bullying was the start of the problem. We got no help at all ,especially from the school.